Arizona's anti-imigration law...

[tonyexpress]

Mexican Drug Cartel Allegedly Puts a Price on Arizona Sheriff's Head

It's offering $1 million for Sheriff Joe Arpaio's head and $10,000 for anyone who wants to join the Mexican cartel.

So, hypothetically if this is true... wouldn't Joe be on the right path?

 

[trplnkl]

I'll tell you what the relevancy is.
Jan Brewer has to do it now, because she can't go behind the back of any republican president and do it on her own.

Actually I quoted the wrong post, but it was still a legit question. Tell me, how do you figure Gov Brewer was attempting to go behind anyone's back? The news of SB1070 and Az's attempt to do the the fed gov's job was up front and in the news prolifically. There was no back door run.
Furthermore, if you can't see the need for expediency your blind understanding of the problem is evident.

 

[trplnkl]

Apparently, my words are relevant. Relevant enough to draw a response from you....

"I still have not heard from you" ....??? No, I will not go steady with you. I told you that already !

You know Lifer, you come here on this topic so high and mighty because you live in Arizona, and I'll admit, you guys do have an illegal immigration problem, and the Fed's could employ more staff at the border, but allow me to bring you down from your high horse. Your basically a "pass thru state". There are 6 more States with a much higher influx of illegal aliens than Arizona. One of them, my State (Florida) which is third on the list, and that's not counting "Cubans" due to the Cuban Adjustment Act of 1966....Your state falls between Ga #6 and NC #8, states not even on the border. These most recent stats can be found on the DHS web site. So maybe you ought to tone down the rhetoric a bit, because there are many of us living it everyday, even more so than your mis-informed uber conservative-self righteous conscious claims to be.

CA...2.6 million
TX...1.6 million
FL...720,000 * not counting Cubans
NY...550,000
ILL...540,000
GA...480,000
AZ...460,000
NC...370,000
NJ...360,000
NV...260,000
All other States....2.73 million

Greatest percentage increase GA 115%....NV 55%...TX 54%

http://www.politifact.com/georgia/s...georgia-have-more-illegal-immigrants-arizona/

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/ois_ill_pe_2009.pdf


BTW....Since Sherriff Joe insisit on defying the Judge's verdict, there's a Florida based company that mfg's "Gringo Masks", give me your address an I'll send some for your maid and lawn crew....

Des...got any stats on drug cartel wars in Fla, Ga, NC etc? How many Fla drug rehab clinics have be raided by drug gangs and dozens of people being gunned down? How many citizens have been kidnapped for ransom in your listed locations?
If you really want to talk about "high horse" attitudes, we can go back to your rant about the "right wing" media for a lofty equestrian comparison.

 

[trplnkl]

Wow...so much text; so little substance..........Have any of you guys actually served in the Armed Forces of the USA?

I'd be really interested in a reply from all four of you.

This is the post I saw little relevancy in. Why would you ask who have or have not served in the Armed Forces? What does that have to do with the unsecured boarders?

 

[diesel96]

Des...got any stats on drug cartel wars in Fla, Ga, NC etc? How many Fla drug rehab clinics have be raided by drug gangs and dozens of people being gunned down? How many citizens have been kidnapped for ransom in your listed locations?
If you really want to talk about "high horse" attitudes, we can go back to your rant about the "right wing" media for a lofty equestrian comparison.

No TRP, Go look up those stats your own self. What am I, your intern ?...lol Face it, the hysteria mongers from AZ and the politcal rhetoric are coming from the Right Wing media blowhards. Don't fall for it. For example Yesterday, the right wing blogsphere went on a frenzy about a Mexican gang called the Zeda's breech Laredo Tx's borders and took over US ranches. Right wing-ville wackos like Michele Malkin and Brietbart ran with this story. Guess what.....It's all BS..... How does a story like this get traction? How does it rile up your base ? Simple, Rightwing-ville plays on your maximum fear. You got Az Senators McClain and Kyle blatenly lying, claiming Phoenix as the kidnapping capital of the world. They claim this is the worst they ever seen, even on the Sunday morning shows......They are spewing BS !....
We are sick and tired of people falslesly claiming property crime and violent crime is on the rise....BS!
You don't get to choose your facts.... Fact is....property and violent crime is down each consecutive year from 2006-2009...Enough of these extreme stories. Why do you run with them ?

This is the post I saw little relevancy in. Why would you ask who have or have not served in the Armed Forces? What does that have to do with the unsecured boarders?

+1 ....we don't agree much, but when we do, I perfer Dos Equis......

 

[klein]

One Newspaper (believe it was the Washington Post) said it best :

Fox News doesn't inform news to their audience,
but they inflame news.

 

[moreluck]

you don't know what you are talking about....your news source had you thinking that Obama's health bill didn't pass !! Oh, real accurate!

 

[klein]

you don't know what you are talking about....your news source had you thinking that Obama's health bill didn't pass !! Oh, real accurate!

It passed, but with all kinds of admendments.... like NO public option.
You won't find 1 single democrat or liberal, and ofcourse republican that is happy with that bill.

I watched Fox news in Cuba for about 45 minutes, and couldn't take it any longer.
They have no world news, and all I heard for 45 minutes was 2 words repeatedly "Obama Admistration" this and that.

That new healthcare bill is garbage, and everyone knows it.
Does nothing to reduce costs.
And that's why healthcare reform isn't even close to beeing setteld and done with.

 

[Babagounj]

It passed, but with all kinds of admendments.... like NO public option.
You won't find 1 single democrat or liberal, and ofcourse republican that is happy with that bill.
expect all those that voted for it and that guy who signed it into law.

I watched Fox news in Cuba for about 45 minutes, and couldn't take it any longer.
They have no world news, and all I heard for 45 minutes was 2 words repeatedly "Obama Admistration" this and that.
were you laughing too much
That new healthcare bill is garbage, and everyone knows it.
except all that voted for it and that guy who signed it into law.
Does nothing to reduce costs.
And that's why healthcare reform isn't even close to beeing setteld and done with.

why its modeled on your country's plan, so then your plan must be flawed too.

 

[klein]

why its modeled on your country's plan, so then your plan must be flawed too.

He signed it, because that's the best he could get at the moment.
Kinda like asking for a dollar, but only getting a nickle. He took the nickle (thought it's better then nothing).

I won't even touch your above quote. That is just too much for me , sorry ! (LOL, laughing).

 

[Babagounj]

so diesel, all those reports of bullets hitting El Paso's townhall that were fired from Mexico must be false , too ?
or the reports that the Mexican military helicopters have over flown our territory on several different days must be false too ?
or the reports that Mexican military units provide security for drug cartels, also false ?
and all those bodies found dead, just another rumor to scare folks ?
and the reports from the Border Patrol about spotters camped on the mtn ranges overlooking their positions spying on their every move, also false ?

 

[UPS Lifer]

CA...2.6 million
TX...1.6 million
FL...720,000 * not counting Cubans
NY...550,000
ILL...540,000
GA...480,000
AZ...460,000
NC...370,000
NJ...360,000
NV...260,000
All other States....2.73 million

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Dies,
When it comes to this subject, I will stay on that "high horse" you spoke about. The violence and crime in this state is fueled by illegals. If the law gets to hot for them they just run back across the border. Most of the news I listen to on our local affiliates ABC CBS NBC is geared toward illegal alien activity and crime. Occasionally, there is a fire or some weather (monsoon stuff) but even some of those fires were started by an illegal. We don't need Floridians (or anyone else) telling us how to run our state. I won't tell you how to run your state either. .... and I just chuckle when the cackling of a lone Canadian who enjoys a beer on his dinner break has to get into the mix!!!

My feeling is that each state has the right to ensure the safety of their citizens. I am really glad to be part of a state that cares about it's citizens and wants to take a stand against the feds. If that makes me show righteous indignation than so be it. Get your president to secure the border and you won't hear a peep out of me!


Oh - I don't buy any of your stats either. your numbers come up to about 10 million and there are between 12 and 20 million illegals. Granted there are others in this country illegally but who really knows for sure! These folks are illegal!!!! They aren't knocking on doors filling out questionaires or making their presence known ... so everything is just an extrapolated guess.

 

[KingofBrown]

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department says an Arizona sheriff known for his efforts against illegal immigrants has refused to cooperate with a civil rights investigation and the department is threatening to sue.
Since March 2009, the U.S. Justice Department has been investigating Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio's office in Phoenix for alleged discrimination and for unconstitutional searches and seizures. Arpaio says the inquiry is focused on his immigration efforts.
In a letter, assistant attorney general Thomas Perez gives the sheriff's office until Aug. 17 to turn over documents first requested last year in what the department calls an inquiry into claims of discrimination based on national origin.

Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

 

[KingofBrown]

But I desperately need your help. It's going to take a lot of resources to combat the attacks and false allegations against me and my deputies — as well as the latest talk about a recall campaign to remove me from office. We anticipate the hardest campaign in Maricopa County history to remove me due to my unyielding stance on illegal immigration enforcement.


LOL. Is this real? LOL

Now, who's giving money?

 

[KingofBrown]

The voters of Maricopa County don't seem to care about this, though. It's the price we all pay for the notorious Joe show.

Oh by the way, for that guy that likes to mix things up, it's Salvador Reza, not Salvador Raza, OK? So don't try to make a big deal out of that last name.

 

[KingofBrown]

I think the Texan meant that crime has not fallen on Arpaio’s jurisdiction, which has not served over 40,000 Felony Warrants. And it seems the Texan has finally understood that the Drug Problem is not the same as the problem of Illegal Immigration. Isn’t that what you meant, Cowboy?

No TRP, Go look up those stats your own self. What am I, your intern ?...lol Face it, the hysteria mongers from AZ and the politcal rhetoric are coming from the Right Wing media blowhards. Don't fall for it. For example Yesterday, the right wing blogsphere went on a frenzy about a Mexican gang called the Zeda's breech

Laredo Tx's borders and took over US ranches. Right wing-ville wackos like Michele Malkin and Brietbart ran with this story. Guess what.....It's all BS..... How does a story like this get traction? How does it rile up your base ? Simple, Rightwing-ville plays on your maximum fear. You got Az Senators McClain and Kyle blatenly lying, claiming Phoenix as the kidnapping capital of the world. They claim this is the worst they ever seen, even on the Sunday morning shows......They are spewing BS !....
We are sick and tired of people falslesly claiming property crime and violent crime is on the rise....BS!
You don't get to choose your facts.... Fact is....property and violent crime is down each consecutive year from 2006-2009...Enough of these extreme stories. Why do you run with them ?


+1 ....we don't agree much, but when we do, I perfer Dos Equis......

Des...got any stats on drug cartel wars in

Fla, Ga, NC etc? How many Fla drug rehab clinics have be raided by drug gangs and dozens of people being gunned down? How many citizens have been kidnapped for ransom in your listed locations?
If you really want to talk about "high horse" attitudes, we can go back to your rant about the "right wing" media for a lofty equestrian comparison.

 

[Babagounj]

Arizona: 67% Say NO to Anchor Baby Citizenship

Rasmussen poll: Immigrant babies should not get citizenship

 

[Babagounj]

Arizona was once tolerant of illegal immigrants. What happened?

Analysts suggest it was a perfect storm of demographic shifts, a scary criminal element, the recession and a new governor.

 

[trplnkl]

I think the Texan meant that crime has not fallen on Arpaio’s jurisdiction, which has not served over 40,000 Felony Warrants. And it seems the Texan has finally understood that the Drug Problem is not the same as the problem of Illegal Immigration. Isn’t that what you meant, Cowboy?

KOB, it is clear that you have no idea what I am talking to Des about. It had nadda to do with Sheriff Joe Arpiao.

 

[trplnkl]

The voters of Maricopa County don't seem to care about this, though. It's the price we all pay for the notorious Joe show.

Oh by the way, for that guy that likes to mix things up, it's Salvador Reza, not Salvador Raza, OK? So don't try to make a big deal out of that last name.

I see nothing proving this happened in Az, much less in Maricopa County. Don't tell me you are taking the word of the poster of the youtube video.lol