Arizona's anti-imigration law...

moreluck

golden ticket member
I can still visualize those Hispanic teenagers crossing the street in front of my car and shaking their fists at us and they had the angriest scowls on their faces and carrying the mexican flag.......

To me that's all backwards........like he said, they should be carrying the American flag. If you like that mex. flag so well....go there and take your hateful look with you!!
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Ex-Ind. congressman claims he was human smuggler

BLOOMINGTON, Ind. —
A former Indiana congressman whose career derailed in an alcohol-related crash in 1982 says he spent four months smuggling Brazilian families across the Canadian border in hopes of finding better lives.
In an online book about his experiences, Joel Deckard, 68, calls the eight trips he made into Canada with undocumented Brazilian workers and their families in late 2007 and early 2008 “the most interesting of my life.”
Canadian officials familiar with the sites described in the book and with illegal immigrant crossings say Deckard’s accounts are credible. “Incidents like that are a common occurrence,” said Kirk Martin, sheriff of the county featured in the book.
 

Babagounj

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Become a Victim of Illegal Alien Crime, And Get a U.S. Visa

Gregory D. Lee

The Los Angeles Times recently reported that the use of a special “U Visa,” which gives illegal alien crime victims temporary residence status in the country in return for their cooperation with law enforcement, has increased over the last couple of years.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Obama Delivering Amnesty for Student ILLEGALS

Students Spared Amid an Increase in Deportations

By JULIA PRESTON

The Obama administration, while deporting a record number of immigrants convicted of crimes, is sparing one group of illegal immigrants from expulsion: students who came to the United States without papers when they were children.
In case after case where immigrant students were identified by federal agents as being in the country illegally, the students were released from detention and their deportations were suspended or canceled, lawyers and immigrant advocates said. Officials have even declined to deport students who openly declared their illegal status in public protests.
 

klein

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That means we educate them so they can go back and use everything they learned here against us.......typical BS

Again, I need to disagree with you.
Education is paid by property taxes, and even if the parents just rent, property taxes are included in the rent.
Secondly, if you don't educate youngsters, the long term effect is, they can't get jobs, and are more likely to become criminals, such as drug dealers, robbers, prostitutes and so on.

Even if they are forced to go back to Mexico after school is finished, atleast they stand a chance to make an honest living there, and won't cause any future trouble for the American or Mexican society.
It's a win, win situation.
 
Reckon that could be attributed to there being many more people crossing on a daily bases?

It's about time theY made this law, get the Irish out of Arizona.
If they are here illegally...hell yea.

Still not enough. ( those numbers are still too low )
true

I don't know if it was so much that immigrants loved America or that they simply wanted a better life but I do agree that when they came to America they embraced the opportunity, learned the language and made America what it is today. Immigrants today have the mindset of "what's in it for me".
Dave, I can't speak for anyone but me but, when I hear that the immigrants of the past loved America, I think that it was more like they loved the American Dream which gave them a certain love for America. Today it seems that the immigrants only want, want and want and wanting a chance to make a successful transition to being an American doesn't seem to be a priority. I know that is probably an over estimated observation, but I can only base my opinions on what I see.
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
If they are illegals studying Nuclear Physics in America, do you really think they'll go back to Iraq or one of the 'stans' and flip burgers??
 
Again, I need to disagree with you.
Education is paid by property taxes, and even if the parents just rent, property taxes are included in the rent.
Secondly, if you don't educate youngsters, the long term effect is, they can't get jobs, and are more likely to become criminals, such as drug dealers, robbers, prostitutes and so on.

Even if they are forced to go back to Mexico after school is finished, atleast they stand a chance to make an honest living there, and won't cause any future trouble for the American or Mexican society.
It's a win, win situation.
I'm sure you know everything there is to know about the property tax structure in the USA and each and every State, City, Community and ISD in the USA, so trying to explain the process to you would be a waste of time.
 

klein

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I'm sure you know everything there is to know about the property tax structure in the USA and each and every State, City, Community and ISD in the USA, so trying to explain the process to you would be a waste of time.

I realize the states have to subsidize education on top of property taxes, just like here.
So, those illegals pay state sales tax, which some of that flows into education.
They might not pay income taxes, and therfor not state income taxes. So, they save 5 cents on the dollar, that the normal taxpayer has to pay for.
Thats a very small price, not to rob kids from education.

Does anyone bitch, you build schools in Iraq and Afghanistan, and even made it possible for girls to go to school now ?
You spend so richly overseas, but when it comes to your own backyard or your neighbors, humanity stops !

I know the US rather not educate people. They just buy them.
Probably 40% of all your doctors, surgeons, nurses are brought in from other countries.. You sure drain Canada from them.
Hockey players.... 50% all from overseas and Canada.
Actors, singers, models, .
Chemist, Sceintist, Physics.

You think it's fun that the rest of the world paid for their long term education, and Americans just come and "buy" them ?

You can give a little , too.
Worldwide good education is a win , win for every country on earth. And a very small price to pay for.
Thats why it's considered the best investment any government can invest in. It's the future for all of us !
 
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pickup

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I realize the states has to subsidize education on top of property taxes, just like here.
So, those illegals pay state sales tax, which some of that flows into education.
They might not pay income taxes, and therfor not state income taxes. So, they save 5 cents on the dollar, that the normal taxpayer has to pay for.
Thats a very small price, not to rob kids from education.

Does anyone bitch, you build schools in Iraq and Afghanistan, and even made it possible for girls to go to school now ?
You spend so richly overseas, but when it comes to your own backyard or your neighbors, humanity stops !

I know the US rather not educate people. They just buy them.
Probably 40% of all your doctors, surgeons, nurses are brought in from other countries.. You sure drain Canada from them.
Hockey players.... 50% all from overseas and Canada.
Actors, singers, models, .
Chemist, Sceintist, Physics.

You think it's fun that the rest of the world paid for their long term education, and Americans just come and "buy" them ?

You can give a little , too.
Worldwide good education is a win , win for every country on earth. And a very small price to pay for.
Thats why it's considered the best investment any government can invest in. It's the future for all of us !

u are the truest example of a mind that has gone to waste. If u hate America so much(and I went back to the "fired" thread and found some early and undisguised examples of your hatred) why do u post on subjects that have to do with America here in a site that is visited predominantly by Americans?) . I also laugh when I read this and stuff like this from u because I have seen some of your u-tube videos "this is my bed, this is a mirror, some fruit". It sounds like u have the mentality of a Forrest Gump with none of his endearing features.

Worried about America's obesity?(seen that mentioned in some of ur posts) why not have a chat with ur brother who seems to have quite a belly(the Elvis Karaoke singer- couldn't he have picked a nice Celine Deion(CANADIAN) Song instead instead of one from that "filthy drug using American")

you're having the time of ur life huh? I would be sad if the time of my life was being used to sit around in my underwear in front of a computer monitor, with a bottle of Jack to my left and a cigarette in my right hand as I type to people whose country I hate. It's a sad joke klein. Enjoy the dance and the tune but the piper will be there soon in about a year with the bill for his services.
 
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moreluck

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I actually agree with you on a part of that....the part about keeping all the $$$ for here at home and stop spending it on foreign countries. Charity begins at home. That's like those doctors who were recently murdered by Taliban....couldn't they do pro-bono work in Appalachia or in any poor section of any city in the US.??
 
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pickup

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I just put Klein on my "ignoramus" list , I am tired of reading and feeding the troll.

For those of u who take klein seriously, then take a look at the first minute of this video(klein provides the narration as well as being the camera man) . I would call it "Forrest Gump goes to Mexico" . If u start crying about me using ur video klein, don't put it on u-tube then.

[video=youtube;HF2h8VQ6v0I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF2h8VQ6v0I[/video]
 
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klein

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That is your assumption, and some others on here, that I hate America.
In reality I have 2 timeshares there, and as you know spent over 10 weeks there this past year.

If I dislike your politics at times. Your damn rights I do. Just like lucy, moreluck, tieguy, and many others hate the government.
They dislike it more then I actually do .

And what has the above posting of mine to do with american hatred at all ?
Just because I think the world deserves education, regardless of circumstances ?
Ofcourse kids deserve that ! Worldwide !

So, stop with you falsh allegations towards me. I know it gets you brownie points from others. Even though you are completly in the wrong.

America's obesity, hey Canada is spot #2. We are not much better off then you.
I wouldn't know why I ever brought that 1 up. Because it's a North American problem. (we have the same junkfood).

Got to admit, my brother does Elvis very well. He's been a fan of Elvis since he was a child.
Can't help it, that fans go world wide to find thier idol.
Like the Justin Bieber thread from Moreluck, or some loved the Beatles, others Shania Twain. Idols don't have borders !

And, I must admit, I'm not used talking into a video cam yet. I just bought it maybe 3 , 4 months ago. Used it on 3 vacations.
Kinda like talking to yourself on a tape-recorder. You want people to hear what your saying.... but, yeah, got to better . That I admit. No big deal. I'm not ashamed. As long as it's lound and clear and understandable.. fine with me.

Anyways pickup, keep up the good work. Keep bashing each on of my comments.
And keep saying all my postings are bashing America.
Some will agree with you, and some won't.

I can't see it.
 

KingofBrown

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This is the wrong thing about you, Cowboy. You just say "That's not what it implies." "It would be a waste of time trying to explain it to you." etc. etc. etc. I'd really love you to take the time to corroborate your claims in the future, Texan.

I'm sure you know everything there is to know about the property tax structure in the USA and each and every State, City, Community and ISD in the USA, so trying to explain the process to you would be a waste of time.
 

KingofBrown

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I don't see nothing wrong in the video, really. Not even the girl singing. There's a real nice view of the sea. And I don't think criticizing someone's personal life is the answer to post #1891. But, well, who knows what problems you guys might have.

I just put Klein on my "ignoramus" list , I am tired of reading and feeding the troll.

For those of u who take klein seriously, then take a look at the first minute of this video(klein provides the narration as well as being the camera man) . I would call it "Forrest Gump goes to Mexico" . If u start crying about me using ur video klein, don't put it on u-tube then.

[video=youtube;HF2h8VQ6v0I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF2h8VQ6v0I[/video]
 

klein

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I don't see nothing wrong in the video, really. Not even the girl singing. There's a real nice view of the sea. And I don't think criticizing someone's personal life is the answer to post #1891. But, well, who knows what problems you guys might have.

I actually shot that video (the first minute), still in my underwear. I just woke up, thought it,s now or never to take pics from the room and view from the room.
Because, once I leave the room, I'm not back until late.... (or sometimes early morning).
No biggie.
If it was that bad, I wouldn't have posted it on youtube. Or, I would have cut that section out.

Nothing, absolutly nothing to be ashamed of.

Besides, has nothing to do with this subject at all.
All, I wanted to point out, that education was important (for illegals as well), even though that really needs to be adressed and changed in the future, too !

Pickup is being picky (-up), thats all.
 
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pickup

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I don't see nothing wrong in the video, really. Not even the girl singing. There's a real nice view of the sea. And I don't think criticizing someone's personal life is the answer to post #1891. But, well, who knows what problems you guys might have.

Actually, the proper response to post 1891 would have been to tell the poster to mind his own business( let the hardware man focus on his own store and let the 99 cent store owner focus on his own store instead of the two telling each other how to run their businesses) and focus on his own country's problems (that is if he believes he should focus on a country and not on his own personal domain)
 

klein

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Actually, the proper response to post 1891 would have been to tell the poster to mind his own business( let the hardware man focus on his own store and let the 99 cent store owner focus on his own store instead of the two telling each other how to run their businesses) and focus on his own country's problems (that is if he believes he should focus on a country and not on his own personal domain)

First of all, you would have to be a blind and deaf person in Canada, not to hear from american news, politics, etc.
Secondly, Canada and the USA are more then just border countries. We are very much integrated together, mostly thru free trade (the worlds largest trading zone), and even with oil pipelines, electricity networks, and manufacturing. As well as farming and animal breeding. And probably much more.

There are certain things in the US, that I would like to introduce to Canada, forsure, and vice versa.
Same as from Germany, like build public transportion, city and country wide, that takes you from point A to point B,faster then any car could ever do. (and cheaper).

I pretty much know how the germans dealt with political issues, as I do Canada, and yes, even the US.
We get all your shows here (60 minutes, dateline, CNN, Fox, and whatever else).
Canadians are very aware of what's going on south of us.
And , yes, it is important to us.

And a little bit of input of Canadian or German political opinion shouldn't hurt you a bit.
 
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