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bbsam

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Oh ok just let the Chinese screw us and give up trying. what a dweeb
Why is it that from Obamacare to international trade, the American business community is always let off the hook? Government screws us, other countries screw us, but it's never the Chamber of Commerce, ALEC, Wall Street or corporations in general?
 

MrFedEx

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Why is it that from Obamacare to international trade, the American business community is always let off the hook? Government screws us, other countries screw us, but it's never the Chamber of Commerce, ALEC, Wall Street or corporations in general?

Read "Hillbilly Elegy", which I just finished. It explains a lot about Trumpeters, who oppose big government, but expect to be rescued by it, profess Christianity, but don't follow it, and embrace Horatio Alger values, but don't want to work hard.

Education? Who needs it. Everyone deserves a high paying job at the plant or mill, so college isn't necessary. Neither is striving for excellence.

Trump will bring it all back....not.
 

Jkloc420

Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
Read "Hillbilly Elegy", which I just finished. It explains a lot about Trumpeters, who oppose big government, but expect to be rescued by it, profess Christianity, but don't follow it, and embrace Horatio Alger values, but don't want to work hard.

Education? Who needs it. Everyone deserves a high paying job at the plant or mill, so college isn't necessary. Neither is striving for excellence.

Trump will bring it all back....not.
Lmao, so a 60000 college debt is better
 

Jkloc420

Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
Do you prefer topping out at $14/hr for the next 40 years after high school?
what r u talking about a college degree is no guarantee. it is the field you choose that is the most important. it is why we have 2 trillion in student debt
 

bbsam

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what r u talking about a college degree is no guarantee. it is the field you choose that is the most important. it is why we have 2 trillion in student debt
I'd say it's because costs are way out of control. Perhaps that wages have remained stagnant for 35 years while corporate profits and stock markets have made a killing.
 

Non sequitur

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Obama care, regulations, easy money(low interest) with no real demand= stagnate ececonomy and no wage growth. Not all of Obama's policies were bad just not the best. Its time to push the throttle down on this economy. A rising tide should lift all boats.
 

bbsam

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Obama care, regulations, easy money(low interest) with no real demand= stagnate ececonomy and no wage growth. Not all of Obama's policies were bad just not the best. Its time to push the throttle down on this economy. A rising tide should lift all boats.
They've been saying that for 30 years.
 

wkmac

Well-Known Member
A rising tide should lift all boats.

In nautical terms, that is correct but in the last 40 plus years a body of evidence grows that in economic terms, that theory of elevation may not be working.

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Non sequitur

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If you look at us birth rate and female workforce participation rate over the last 40 years you could conclude these things affected both growth and wage stagnation. Common solutions to 20th century problems has side effects.
 
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