quad decade guy
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BigUnionGuy
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That sucks.
We have feeder drivers that drop and hook with other Locals and they bitch about that.
Personally, I find it offensive that you can't carry your seniority between classifications.
After all.... in a Union shop, what else do you have besides your seniority ?
Yeet
Not gonna let ‘em catch the Midnight Rider
Seniority is king. The only good thing about classification seniority is once you’re in, you don’t go down in spots, only up. So a 30 year package guy like @IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U can’t decide he wants all of a sudden to drive a truck and come jump you.
BigUnionGuy
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That's the issue I have.
30 year pkg driver whose body can't take it anymore, gets bumped to the bottom of the board.
Or, a feeder driver that can't hold a CDL or medical card and bids an inside job.
Some people like it, others (like me) don't.
It's just a matter of perspective.
I'll die in my little brown truck
BigUnionGuy
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Yeet
Not gonna let ‘em catch the Midnight Rider
Yeah it was just a dig at I’ve. Honestly I would be over 100 spots higher than I am if classification seniority didn’t exist.
BigUnionGuy
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That's where the dichotomy lies.
You are safe where you are at.... but, you could have been higher.
quad decade guy
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I would be #1....
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Treegrower
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What’s wrong with a feeder driver biding an inside job? Through no fault of their own maybe they can no longer possess a CDL or obtain a medical card. Shouldn’t they be able to use their seniority to bid an inside job?
I’m a little perplexed by your response. Regardless of one’s personal perspective, right is right. Hard fought longevity and seniority is often all you have . I’ve never seen someone make a move based on a personal vendetta. Never seen a 20-30 year package car driver go to feeders just so he could bump or jump seniority of some off the street guy for the sole purpose of pissing them off. Never seen a feeder driver do the same in reverse to packages. I’ve also never seen a driver of any type bid a inside job regardless of reason to to purposely “step in front” of someone whose already there.
BUG, your perspective is a bit puzzling to me. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. You have yours , I have mine. Being a union official , who I’d thought that you’d be a very strong advocate or promoter of what’s best for the employees. A employee who changes classification for whatever reason shouldn’t go to the very bottom of that classifications seniority. That is not what is best for the employees in my opinion.
BigUnionGuy
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I think you mis-read my post.
I was advocating for company seniority vs. classification seniority....
Treegrower
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You are correct. I stand corrected. After re reading your post I see that now. Sorry.
It’s still a point of contention in our hub though. A lot of guys hate it( company seniority) And want classification seniority. Those are guys in feeders who were hired off the street or part timers in the hub who went and got a CDL on their own and then went into feeders who “ lose ground “ or go backwards on the seniority list when a package car guys decides to go to feeders or bids a 22.2 or 22.3 inside job. It drives them nuts. The wailing and gnashing of teeth that goes on.....
ManInBrown
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It works both ways. Where I am we have classification seniority. It sucks. I got beat out for a job by someone I have 7 years more company time than. But what people forget is, it goes the other way also. There are a lot of 20+ year package drivers, that won’t go to feeders because they don’t want to go all the way to the bottom of the seniority list. So somewhere that has classification seniority, it affords the right of newer (less than 10 years) package drivers to move to feeders because high seniority package drivers won’t go. If it was company seniority where I am, there’s no telling, I might still be in package.
I’ve spoken to feeder drivers in locals where it’s company. It’s a 20 year wait to get to feeders. We have package drivers with less than 5 years coming to feeders. In the last 18 months we’ve had 3 or 4, 25+ year package drivers come to feeders. From the cushiest package route in the center, to working the worst possible hours in feeders, with the worst equipment. That’s a bitter pill to swallow. I give them credit. My blood would be boiling, taking a peek at the seniority list and seeing someone with 12 months with the company, in front of me.
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BigUnionGuy
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It's all good.
I've mis-read posts and responded.
2 days later.... looked at it.... and thought, what the hell was my point ?
Yep.
It's a subject that could be debated for hours, and would never leave everyone satisfied.
You have to play the cards you are dealt.
Indecisi0n
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I work harder than Bill. I should have that job !!!!
a case can also be made that pt years be counted as half full time years for seniority...if someone has 10 years pt that should be equal to 5 years ft......that way hirelings off the street do not get immediate seniority over the current people.....I am surprised that the teamsters haven't made this a contractual issue........I believe that this was covered in " peoples school " and "t.l.a " talks
Whither
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Here company seniority dovetails across FT classifications but nothing close to a 20 year wait to go feeders. Before the pandemic 1 year in pkg car was sometimes enough, and at the start of the year I know of at least couple RPCDs who only had 4-5 years seniority that qualified in feeders.
We have company seniority here and I've never heard of a 20 year wait to get into feeders. We routinely got package drivers who hadn't even hit top pay yet.
