Before it's too late!

[Bubblehead]

You know how they are.

They'll try any argument....

This guy illustrates the mentality you are describing.

 

[Irishman Collins]

All good points on breaks, can we get back to electing a new IBT president in 2016, a lot of names have been thrown out, who is best for Ups members? Junior is definitely starting to worry about his legacy. Teamster Magazine can only spin so much. Teamsters. org can only spin so much? We as working teamsters feel the rug being pulled out from under us. I jave noticed Hoffa loyalists that I have to deal with in hearings and meetings, seem exhausted with trying to praise a concessinary contract

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I think Bugs Bunny would be a better choice than Jimmy or anyone in his crew at this moment. At least we would know that Bugs would take great pleasure in annoying and harassing U.P.S.

 

[Irishman Collins]

It's an argument the company uses.

"Why create more full-time inside jobs, we can't get people who want to work 8 now."


My only point being, there are people who want a full-time inside job....

and watch (some) current ones, walk out every chance they get.




It's tough being me....



-Bug-

Ok, I get it, but frankly I could care less what the company wants. Full time jobs must continue to be a top priority for our Union negotiators now and in the future and the company can shove it where the sun doesn't shine if they don't like it.

 

[710 steward]

Ok, I get it, but frankly I could care less what the company wants. Full time jobs must continue to be a top priority for our Union negotiators now and in the future and the company can shove it where the sun doesn't shine if they don't like it.

You are absolutely correct. That's always the goal. The problem is junior let UPS out of Central States so it doesn't matter how many jobs could be created it will never affect the fund in a positive way. Right now I'd take the kid asking "would you like fries with that?" over him and Hall every time.

 

[Lead Belly]

Is this the same "mindset" that the company exploits with the bonus system in regards to package car drivers?
Leveraging time and money?

Yes & yes

 

[BigUnionGuy]

This guy illustrates the mentality you are describing.

Yep.

If the members were more involved.... your point would be moot.

I could care less what the company wants. Full time jobs must continue to be a top priority for our Union negotiators now and in the future and the company can shove it where the sun doesn't shine if they don't like it.

Ok, I get it.


It takes more than talk (on BrownCafe) to affect a change.


What have you done today, to involve your fellow co-workers ?

Just asking....



-Bug-

 

[upschuck]

Ok, I get it, but frankly I could care less what the company wants. Full time jobs must continue to be a top priority for our Union negotiators now and in the future and the company can shove it where the sun doesn't shine if they don't like it.

What we need is to make sure the ones already negotiated are still manned, and being created, but local only has the locals number, and does not access to national numbers, or so they say.

 

[10 point]

What we need is to make sure the ones already negotiated are still manned, and being created, but local only has the locals number, and does not access to national numbers, or so they say.

National numbers? Talking about 22-3 job number per job?

 

[BigUnionGuy]

What we need is to make sure the ones already negotiated are still manned, and being created, but local only has the locals number, and does not access to national numbers, or so they say.

Accountability.

And verifiable maintenance.... of current jobs.


Yep.



-Bug-

 

[Bubblehead]

What we need is to make sure the ones already negotiated are still manned, and being created, but local only has the locals number, and does not access to national numbers, or so they say.

National numbers? Talking about 22-3 job number per job?

It's a "shell game" and the IBT hasn't been up to the challenge...again.

 

[upschuck]

National numbers? Talking about 22-3 job number per job?

We've had some 22.3 jobs that have left our local, and we don't know where they have gone, or if they have vanished.

 

[upschuck]

It's a "shell game" and the IBT hasn't been up to the challenge...again.

Do we know that, or is that speculation?

 

[Bubblehead]

It's a "shell game" and the IBT hasn't been up to the challenge...again.

Do we know that, or is that speculation?

We've had some 22.3 jobs that have left our local, and we don't know where they have gone, or if they have vanished.

 

[upschuck]

It's a "shell game" and the IBT hasn't been up to the challenge...again.

Do we know that, or is that speculation?

I was referring to the International, not the locals.

 

[Bubblehead]

I was referring to the International, not the locals.

So was I.
If the jobs can be moved to....wherever, who should shoulder that burden of tracking their movement?
Also, Article 22 states that no full time job can be replaced by part time labor.
Did the work move with the job in your local?

 

[upschuck]

So was I.
If the jobs can be moved to....wherever, who should shoulder that burden of tracking their movement?
Also, Article 22 states that no full time job can be replaced by part time labor.
Did the work move with the job in your local?

The Internationals, silly.

It was a couple of air driver combo jobs, that the air driver part was "not needed" and believe not replaced with PT, so they moved the 22.3 to a different building out of local.

 

[10 point]

They're in the NATIONAL GRIEVANCE abyss?

 

[Bubblehead]

The Internationals, silly.

It was a couple of air driver combo jobs, that the air driver part was "not needed" and believe not replaced with PT, so they moved the 22.3 to a different building out of local.

It's 2015 Chuck, if each job has a number, why not have a transparent computerized system that any member can see?
Each local rosters the job #'s in their local.

A second year computer student could write that program.

 

[Irishman Collins]

Yep.

If the members were more involved.... your point would be moot.



Ok, I get it.


It takes more than talk (on BrownCafe) to affect a change.


What have you done today, to involve your fellow co-workers ?

Just asking....



-Bug-

I have done quite a bit over the years. I am not going to list them because it would reveal my identity. Nice try though, lol. It is important that I remain anonymous on Brown Cafe. In the real world I am active and will remain active for the remainder of my years at U.P.S..

 

[upschuck]

It's 2015 Chuck, if each job has a number, why not have a transparent computerized system that any member can see?
Each local rosters the job #'s in their local.

A second year computer student could write that program.

I totally agree. No reason not to have transparency on this issue.