Biden Puts 8000 Union Members Out of Work

I know I have long established your irrational and quite frankly hateful belief that the US government should only help people you approve of based on your imaginary belief that they are lazy. Just insane bs. Really think about the insanity it takes to say hey I only want the us government to help Americans I personally don’t believe are lazy. Just a delusional thing to believe and post.
People are lazy
Talk to your parents, your grandparents if they were still around
 

vantexan

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more expensive gasoline is fantastic for this industry. Like I said when Obama was president we made tons of money. I forgot that that gasoline was more expensive for a lot of his presidency. As far as stagnant economy, compare the how the economy performed under president Obama to either bush or trump.
More expensive gasoline will put a drag on the overall economy. And there's no comparison. Bush and Trump had better economies until outside forces crippled their economies. Obama had a stagnant economy primarily due to his policies.
 

Sportello

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vantexan

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For some reason the "Right" never wants to talk about that nor all the jobs that going green will facilitaate.
Who is talking about drilling in national parks? The Federal government is the biggest land owner in the western half of the country. Restricting oil and gas exploration and development on those lands, i.e. Bureau of Land Management, not national parks, will devastate the industry. A major reason prices have come down considerably was the development of the Bakken oil field in North Dakota and Montana on private land. If that area had BLM land Obama wouldn't have allowed it and we'd still have high prices.
 

Sportello

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Who is talking about drilling in national parks? The Federal government is the biggest land owner in the western half of the country. Restricting oil and gas exploration and development on those lands, i.e. Bureau of Land Management, not national parks, will devastate the industry. A major reason prices have come down considerably was the development of the Bakken oil field in North Dakota and Montana on private land. If that area had BLM land Obama wouldn't have allowed it and we'd still have high prices.
 

vantexan

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With obviously partisan language. Obama's recovery was largely due to business recovering over time and rehiring laid off workers. That doesn't make a strong economy. It took Trump reducing taxes and regulations to rev the economy. Y'all try to frame it as four years of nothing, but it was the virus in 2020 that derailed things.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
OK, and the number of oil and gas wells in national parks is a fraction of the number of wells out there. A tiny fraction. Most of what is being restricted is on much much larger BLM land.
Listen man, he linked to a Google search results page.... I mean why even bother arguing with such a compelling source.
 

bacha29

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* Elon musk. But if you like him good for you. If you are worried, I’d be worried about the objectively radical nature of the Republican Party, not a Democratic Party that elected middle of the Joe Biden to be president. Republicans right now believe truly insane stuff. Like objectively factually insane stuff, they are trying right now to restrict voting they believe in mass delusional that the election was stolen from Biden and many of them were actively supporting over turning the results of that election, that’s truly dangerous and radical stuff. the last two Republican presidents have both left the economy in shambles, republicans are wrong on nearly every policy. Like objectively wrong, they oppose responding to climate change, they oppose raising the minimum wage, they oppose making free, they oppose getting care to more Americans, like what are they for except tax cuts for rich people, and bs culture war fights over Christmas and cancel culture nonsense?
Spot on. Because they have no policies that are attuned with the 21st century obstructionism is all they've got to use in an effort to hold onto their eroding political power. Simply take a look at the number of retirees who were at Trump political rallies. Everyone knew what they are living on. And of the younger ones there how many of them have the formal education and complex job skills needed to advance within the 21st century economy ? As has been mentioned before the basis of much of the division and discord truly is education and related job skills and the lack of them.
 

vantexan

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Spot on. Because they have no policies that are attuned with the 21st century obstructionism is all they've got to use in an effort to hold onto their eroding political power. Simply take a look at the number of retirees who were at Trump political rallies. Everyone knew what they are living on. And of the younger ones there how many of them have the formal education and complex job skills needed to advance within the 21st century economy ? As has been mentioned before the basis of much of the division and discord truly is education and related job skills and the lack of them.
There won't be enough jobs to around between opening the borders as well as the development of robotics and A.I. Then we'll have to have very serious conversations about what the government can do to assist the population and the my-side-is-better-than-your-side crap will need to go away.
 

Indecisi0n

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* Elon musk. But if you like him good for you. If you are worried, I’d be worried about the objectively radical nature of the Republican Party, not a Democratic Party that elected middle of the road Joe Biden to be president. Republicans right now believe truly insane stuff. Like objectively factually insane stuff, they are trying right now to restrict voting they believe in mass delusional that the election was stolen from Biden and many of them were actively supporting over turning the results of that election, that’s truly dangerous and radical stuff. the last two Republican presidents have both left the economy in shambles, republicans are wrong on nearly every policy. Like objectively wrong, they oppose responding to climate change, they oppose raising the minimum wage, they oppose making college free, they oppose getting health care to more Americans, like what are they for except tax cuts for rich people, and bs culture war fights over Christmas and cancel culture nonsense?
I don’t blame republicans or democratics. It’s not one party that has destroyed American. It’s individual insane people who can be bought with money. They prioritize themselves over the American people. Doesn’t matter what side they fall on but they fact remains they are a piece of :censored2:.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
It's a sad world that we live in now my friend
I don't want to do anything but I want to make everything.

I'm going to teach my kids this buddy**
 

Sportello

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Rescinded.

EO's work that way, unless you can make law.

You need the Senate and the Congress to do that, along with the Presidency.

Enjoy!
 

cachmeifucan

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I'm a conservative but I'm ok with him killing the xl pipeline. My opinion is let's use up everyone's oil first. Nobody wants a pipeline over there water source. The oil companies won't pass on the money they save to the consumers anyway. Soon most cars will be electric so people in the oil and gas industry should if they are young start looking for another career. Ups got a corporate tax cut of 13% and we got a average contract.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Everyone should be made aware that not all the oil pumped in this country belongs to private companies.
Many local cities & towns get a majority of their municipal spending budgets from the sale of oil.
 
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