MAKAVELI
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So you can't quote Obama claiming a National Crisis. Got it.
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MAKAVELI
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So you can't quote Obama claiming a National Crisis. Got it.
I certainly pointed out that he circumvented Congress including DACA for his political priorities. And there's an official name for it, "National Emergency", which a president is entitled to declare as he deems necessary. Yeah, I know what Trump said at his press conference, but he's been pursuing this as necessary for some time now. And his base certainly wants it. And it's not about race, it's about safety and security, as well as the financial burden unchecked illegal immigration puts on the country.
When he signed the DACA EO.
Gawd Damn! Can't you stupid frienders read?
What funding did he have to find in order to circumvent Congress upon its signing?
Old Man Jingles
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No one asked me until now, I did not reply to any posts that had that as a subject, I never said I could and I'm not interested in that.
Damn! It is just plain friend
ing dumb in here tonight!Aww, he's doing most of it without Congressional funding. It's all legit, even heard the Russians threw in a few Rubles.
Old Man Jingles
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People were added to the Federal payroll, forms were printed, TV commercials were paid for ...
USCIS states that based on the total number of initial applications and renewals, the total cost for adjudicating DACA cases was $316.5 million for the years 2015-2017. ---- published-Oct 8, 2018
Old Man Jingles
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Yes
Yes
Come on, guys. You've been trying to argue that Obama's emergency declarations and Trump's are the same thing. Don't bail on it now.
What Obama national emergency had a funding mechanism that circumvented Congress?
Old Man Jingles
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DACA
USCIS states that based on the total number of initial applications and renewals, the total cost for adjudicating DACA cases was $316.5 million for the years 2015-2017. ---- published-Oct 8, 2018
El Correcto
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Democrats don’t care about the nation, ttku.
They are declaring world wide emergency and trying to hand over our national sovereignty to global influence in an attempt to control the weather.
Meanwhile trump wants a wall.
MAKAVELI
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An EO is not a National Crisis. Ttku...When he signed the DACA EO.
Gawd Damn! Can't you stupid friend
That has nothing to do with funding a national emergency declaration via circumvention of Congress.
MAKAVELI
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So you can't quote Obama claiming a National Crisis?
Old Man Jingles
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It's OK to think that if you want to ... doesn't impact anyone else.
What Obama national emergency was an actual national emergency? And there's nothing in the national emergency law that states the President has to get Congressional approval to allocate any funds towards an emergency. That's the point, that the president can act as he deems necessary without delay or political considerations.
Obama's and Trump's just aren't the same thing.
Old Man Jingles
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I never said they were.
Beats me. Not a policy guy. But he never had to pull funding for any of them from various department budgets outside of Congressional appropriation for them to be carried out.
Good thing Trump even said the wall isn't an actual emergency. The courts will strike it down.
Then we'd have a king. The courts will stop it.
El Correcto
god is dead
Obama,
Daca, the Paris accord, Iran nuclear deal, fast and furious operation/ executive privilege to incidents resulting from, invading holes with out congress, ACA mandatory mandate forcing people to buy healthcare, I’m sure I’m forgetting some.
He was a terrible President, just like all regressives. Conservatives told ya since the beginning always warning the government encroachment into health care would lead to the single payer debate and socializing a private industry, regressive Obama lied and said nuh uh, just give us an inch we promise we won’t do that. Now look at the debate, single payer.
Daca, the Paris accord, Iran nuclear deal, fast and furious operation/ executive privilege to incidents resulting from, invading
holes with out congress, ACA mandatory mandate forcing people to buy healthcare, I’m sure I’m forgetting some. He was a terrible President, just like all regressives. Conservatives told ya since the beginning always warning the government encroachment into health care would lead to the single payer debate and socializing a private industry, regressive Obama lied and said nuh uh, just give us an inch we promise we won’t do that. Now look at the debate, single payer.
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