CalExit

[bbsam]

Very true and the picture of how it is done is wide open with both positive and negative potentials.

As to the first paragraph, how do vastly smaller countries do such things?

They do it by taxation and governance. Would companies find California government appealing? Would the State become suddenly more business friendly?

 

[wkmac]

Inc

So you believe it would remain the sixth largest?

Valid question but then why would you assume it wouldn't or for that matter grow bigger?

 

[Turdferguson]

Silicon Valley could move anywhere right now but chooses to remain in California. They aren't going anywhere.

Does California's higher education system receive federal funds?
How much of a hit does the California economy take when the military leaves. San Diego comes to mind first of all. Why would counties use your ports to ship goods into the United States if you are not part of the United States . The could use Mexican Ports for cheaper

 

[MAKAVELI]

friend

France has a population of 64 million. Is there a reason you went with Brazilian population of 200 million? Wouldn't France be a better comparison?

That's still almost double the population. The point is it is very possible to exit the US and remain one of the largest and successful economies of the world.

 

[Boulevard859710]

I don't think anything would change. California would still get money from the US because the US government is in the habit of sending money to countries that hate us.

 

[bbsam]

Valid question but then why would you assume it wouldn't or for that matter grow bigger?

I assume it would shrink because that's how businesses work. They will look for the cheapest conditions to thrive in. If California were to suddenly take on massive projects requiring massive tax increases, that burden would have CEOs looking for other opportunities.

 

[bbsam]

That's still almost double the population. The point is it is very possible to exit the US and remain one of the largest and successful economies of the world.

Is California's economy almost double France's?

 

[bbsam]

Mexico?

Eeeeeewwww

 

[wkmac]

Does California's higher education system receive federal funds? How much of a hit does the California economy take when the military leaves. San Diego comes to mind first of all. Why would counties use your ports to ship goods into the United States if you are not part of the United States . The could use Mexican Ports for cheaper

Question 1) Every state receives Federal Funds but not all states receive the amount of funds back that they sent to Washington in the first place. Read at the link down the page in the OP under the heading "THE CASE FOR INDEPENDENCE IN 9 SIMPLE POINTS"

Question 2) How much goes the California economy grow when the money sent to Washington now stays home in California? This cost may offset.

Question 3) That depends purely on economic considerations and the burden is on California in that case.

"The could use Mexican Ports for cheaper"

If true, why are they not using them now?

 

[Turdferguson]

Hooray for California!

yescalifornia

The article mentioned how much land the federal government owns in California. Do you think the government is just going to give that up for free? The have committed genocide for less. Ask the Native Americans about that.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Is California's economy almost double France's?

Why would it need to be double?

 

[wkmac]

I assume it would shrink because that's how businesses work. They will look for the cheapest conditions to thrive in. If California were to suddenly take on massive projects requiring massive tax increases, that burden would have CEOs looking for other opportunities.

Maybe assuming is our first mistake.

 

[Turdferguson]

Question 1) Every state receives Federal Funds but not all states receive the amount of funds back that they sent to Washington in the first place. Read at the link down the page in the OP under the heading "THE CASE FOR INDEPENDENCE IN 9 SIMPLE POINTS"

Question 2) How much goes the California economy grow when the money sent to Washington now stays home in California? This cost may offset.

Question 3) That depends purely on economic considerations and the burden is on California in that case.

"The could use Mexican Ports for cheaper"

If true, why are they not using them now?

Because the California ports are part of the United States. Go through customs once as opposed to twice.

 

[bbsam]

Why would it need to be double?

You suggested France had nearly double the population . You don't think the standard of living in California is nearly double that of France?

 

[wkmac]

The article mentioned how much land the federal government owns in California. Do you think the government is just going to give that up for free? The have committed genocide for less. Ask the Native Americans about that.

I appreciate the moment of honesty where few here dare to venture.

 

[Turdferguson]

Maybe assuming is our first mistake.

You are assuming a lot in your posts too

 

[bbsam]

Maybe assuming is our first mistake.

California businesses are different than others?

 

[upschuck]

What would the vote have to be? a simple majority, or something else?

 

[Turdferguson]

I appreciate the moment of honesty where few here dare to venture.

Need to look at everything . No matter how distasteful

 

[upschuck]

Because the California ports are part of the United States. Go through customs once as opposed to twice.

They couldn't handle to increased volume right now too, but there a plans to build more ports, just waiting for the money.