California

[oldngray]

Ag is a multi $ billion business here in CA. Our products are on tables all across the world. Cheap labor is one of the main components of that multi $billion industry. That's why politicians look the other way when it comes to the undocumented workforce that it exploits. And unlike you 99% of Americans do not grow their own food.

And California is dominated by Democratic politicians. Blame them for encouraging and exploiting the use of cheap illegal workers.

 

[MAKAVELI]

And California is dominated by Democratic politicians. Blame them for encouraging and exploiting the use of cheap illegal workers.

They all share the blame. Isn't immigration a federal law? Using undocumented workers for cheap labor is not exclusive to CA. It's in red states as well, so try again sir.

 

[oldngray]

They all share the blame. Isn't immigration a federal law? Using undocumented workers for cheap labor is not exclusive to CA. It's in red states as well, so try again sir.

You brought up California. Your fail ... again.

 

[MAKAVELI]

You brought up California. Your fail ... again.

So you're saying it's not true in any other state? Your fail. Try again.

 

[oldngray]

I agree its a nationwide problem. Caused mostly by the Democrats in office on federal as well as state levels.

 

[MAKAVELI]

I agree its a nationwide problem. Caused mostly by the Democrats in office on federal as well as state levels.

It's caused by both parties and an American economic system dependant on it's own Chinese sweatshop labor practices.

 

[oldngray]

It's caused by both parties and an American economic system dependant on it's own Chinese sweatshop labor practices.

I agree with you there. The main difference is Republics tend to abuse workers in other countries and the Democrats do it in the US.

 

[MAKAVELI]

I agree with you there. The main difference is Republics tend to abuse workers in other countries and the Democrats do it in the US.

IMO there is no difference. No matter what side of the isle you are on. If you don't stand up for what's right, you are part of the problem.

 

[moreluck]

. No matter what side of the isle you are on. .

Windward or Leeward........

 

[MAKAVELI]

Windward or Leeward........

In your case it would be leeward.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I agree its a nationwide problem. Caused mostly by the Democrats in office on federal as well as state levels.

Are you sure it's not a regional issue?

 

[oldngray]

Are you sure it's not a regional issue?

Multi regional, yes but across the nation. Not a problem in places Maine for instance I would say or many other areas but much more widespread than just California.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Multi regional, yes but across the nation. Not a problem in places Maine for instance I would say or many other areas but much more widespread than just California.

I was being a smart ass by bringing up my reference to the issues during Peak.

 

[oldngray]

I was being a smart ass by bringing up my reference to the issues during Peak.

Sorry, I missed the sarcasm there.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Sorry, I missed the sarcasm there.

It was rather subtle.

 

[island1fox]

And you just ignored my statement. Just admit it. It's ok for these people to pick your vegetables, clean your house, landscape your yard or any other physically demanding or demeaning job for low wages. But when they step into the professional world that is crossing the line. Just come out of the closet. I'm sure you will find it liberating.

Spor,

Crossing the line happened when they cross OUR BORDER illegally !!!

The people that should be doing all the menial jobs are the people sitting at home collecting unemployment and food stamps --while the rest of us work and support them!!

His only client should be himself --explaining why he broke our law and when he should be sent back !! Then he should be disbarred for breaking the law.
Just what we need another Dishonest Attorney.

Why did he not cross the border legally and go through the process as millions of immigrants have ????

 

[oldngray]

Spor,

Crossing the line happened when they cross OUR BORDER illegally !!!

The people that should be doing all the menial jobs are the people sitting at home collecting unemployment and food stamps --while the rest of us work and support them!!

His only client should be himself --explaining why he broke our law and when he should be sent back !! Then he should be disbarred for breaking the law.
Just what we need another Dishonest Attorney.

Why did he not cross the border legally and go through the process as millions of immigrants have ????

I agree with you there. Put the welfare people to work. That will never happen though in a politically correct environment.

 

[island1fox]

I agree with you there. Put the welfare people to work. That will never happen though in a politically correct environment.

oldngray,

It seems most of our problems are a result of the B.S. politically correct nonsense !!!

Politically correct means never having to say you are stupid !!!

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I agree with you there. Put the welfare people to work. That will never happen though in a politically correct environment.

I live in the middle of apple country. The local orchards have to import workers from Jamaica to work the fields as unemployed locals are too lazy to do the work.

 

[oldngray]

Few native born Americans are willing to do migrant farm work. Very hard labor with low pay. Plus why work when you can sit home and collect welfare or unemployment (extended again). ?