Cancel culture—-ON TOPIC

[zubenelgenubi]

I fail to see what burden YOU are bearing, what responsibility YOU are taking, by teaching children that WHITE PEOPLE have, and continue to treat black individuals poorly; specifically based on the color of their skin.

That's not what I said, and I don't feel the need to detail all the problems with this statement. Grouping all white people together as an oppressive group, aside from being inane and untrue, is an unbelievable oversimplification of history, meant only to divide us as a nation. That's a problem.

YOU don’t have to bear any responsibility by teaching students about what went down 60 years ago during the civil rights movement; one generation ago, our grandparents and greats remember it well.

Nothing wrong with teaching about the civil rights movement.

Opposition to the civil rights movement and its seeds are still trickling slowly down the drain.
With “clogs” and objections along the way.

Congratulations. The civil rights movement was not the most important event in all history. The fixation on "race relations" is very problematic.

I see nothing wrong with admitting the fact that I won the cultural lottery, being born a white American.
No, I don’t feel bad about it, but I recognize it

I'm glad you feel you won the "cultural lottery" but it is a delusion, and highly racist, to think simply being born a white man makes life a stroll in the park, even by comparison.

Other than CRT, can you provide me with some more examples of Marxism infiltrating the things being taught in schools?

I don't know how else to frame it to help you understand the issue.

And then; prove to me that it’s brainwashing people?

Teaching things as truth that are matters of perspective at best and outright lies at worst is a form of psychological abuse, sometimes referred to as gaslighting. If you willingly accept a false narrative, it wouldn't be brainwashing. But I don't believe I was the one who made that claim, correct me if I'm wrong.

How did you manage to “break free” of the controlling leftist agenda?

First, i'll stipulate that we both have the same understanding of what you mean by the "leftist agenda" for simplicity's sake.
Second, the problems weren't so rampant when I was in school. Third there are still beliefs that I was taught growing up that I am realizing simply aren't true, and am still working to correct. Finally I was quick to catch on that most people are simply scumbags, and many are ignorant or have their own issues that cause their views of reality to be skewed, so I have generally been pretty skeptical of just about everything. But that didn't come without a price.

I have trusted the wrong people, and gotten burnt over and over. I eventually learned to be skeptical even of myself. If you want some good perspective on both rooting out and challenging your own assumptions, I recommend listening to some of Allan Watts' stuff. He approaches the matter of reality from a mixture of western judeo-christian and eastern philosophies. Pretty good stuff.

 

[vantexan]

I fail to see what burden YOU are bearing, what responsibility YOU are taking, by teaching children that WHITE PEOPLE have, and continue to treat black individuals poorly; specifically based on the color of their skin.
YOU don’t have to bear any responsibility by teaching students about what went down 60 years ago during the civil rights movement; one generation ago, our grandparents and greats remember it well.
Opposition to the civil rights movement and its seeds are still trickling slowly down the drain.
With “clogs” and objections along the way.
I see nothing wrong with admitting the fact that I won the cultural lottery, being born a white American.
No, I don’t feel bad about it, but I recognize it

Other than CRT, can you provide me with some more examples of Marxism infiltrating the things being taught in schools?
And then; prove to me that it’s brainwashing people?
How did you manage to “break free” of the controlling leftist agenda?

You seem certain that white conservatives are all closeted racists if not openly so. Most of us find that behavior reprehensible. But we are also disturbed by efforts being made to teach kids in classrooms that the white race today is responsible for everything that happened decades ago or longer, and must be held accountable and never allowed to forget by mere virtue of being white they are racist and must forever atone for being so. You may not believe this but examples of this are popping up all over the country and parents are fighting back by showing up at school board meetings as well as withdrawing their kids from school. Critical Race Theory and the 1619 Project are not only being pushed in schools but also in employee training sessions in major corporations. And the liberal response? Claim it's not happening so that the indoctrination can continue. They get enough kids believing this then eventually enough of the population will believe it and influence elections. Take away capitalism by insisting everyone get an equal piece of the pie and it's racist, which no one wants to be called, to stand in the way of that. No one wants for anyone of any color to do poorly. But a lot of people do because they're not willing to do what it takes to succeed at a certain level and that applies to people of all races. And when the system collapses they'll say it's just a matter of tweaking the system to get it right. They refuse to learn from clear examples of past experiments in socialism/communism.

 

[Netsua 3:16]

That's not what I said, and I don't feel the need to detail all the problems with this statement. Grouping all white people together as an oppressive group, aside from being inane and untrue, is an unbelievable oversimplification of history, meant only to divide us as a nation. That's a problem.

It’s quite possible that CRT can accomplish racist education without “grouping all white people together”
As a matter of fact, throughout the evolution of black culture in America there have been white voices behind them, and along side them in their journey. In fact, without white people sticking up for them, slavery would still exist.
I’m not sure where the “grouping all white people together” thing comes from. Like, at all

I'm glad you feel you won the "cultural lottery" but it is a delusion, and highly racist, to think simply being born a white man makes life a stroll in the park, even by comparison.
Being white doesn’t make life a stroll in the park, brother. Being white in America, in relation to being black in America, comes with certain advantages. You cannot deny this.
improvements have been, and continue to be made in this department.

I don't know how else to frame it to help you understand the issue.


Teaching things as truth that are matters of perspective at best and outright lies at worst is a form of psychological abuse, sometimes referred to as gaslighting. If you willingly accept a false narrative, it wouldn't be brainwashing. But I don't believe I was the one who made that claim, correct me if I'm wrong

First, i'll stipulate that we both have the same understanding of what you mean by the "leftist agenda" for simplicity's sake.
Second, the problems weren't so rampant when I was in school. Third there are still beliefs that I was taught growing up that I am realizing simply aren't true, and am still working to correct. Finally I was quick to catch on that most people are simply scumbags, and many are ignorant or have their own issues that cause their views of reality to be skewed, so I have generally been pretty skeptical of just about everything. But that didn't come without a price.

I have trusted the wrong people, and gotten burnt over and over. I eventually learned to be skeptical even of myself. If you want some good perspective on both rooting out and challenging your own assumptions, I recommend listening to some of Allan Watts' stuff. He approaches the matter of reality from a mixture of western judeo-christian and eastern philosophies. Pretty good stuff.

Im not making any claims for you
I’m simply trying to understand EXACTLY what you are claiming with these well thought out, well written, highly anecdotal diatribes.
For example: Do you feel, that LIBERALS specifically are more detrimental shall we say than CONSERVATIVES?
And if so, what led you to that conclusion?
Why, and how is it “the liberals” specifically and not “everybody?”
You aren’t trusting of everything you read. Me either. We have that in common. You are obviously a critical thinker.
I find myself rebelling against conservative ideals, and you vehemently chastise the perceived “left.”
Show me how critical thinking led you to crusade against cancel culture and what you perceive to be liberal idealism?

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

It’s quite possible that CRT can accomplish racist education without “grouping all white people together”

No it's not.

 

[Netsua 3:16]

No it's not.

Why?

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Why?

Because then it wouldn't be critical race theory.

 

[Netsua 3:16]

Because then it wouldn't be critical race theory.

The premise of CRT is not based on
ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE BAD

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

The premise of CRT is not based on
ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE EVIL

You quoted my post which is unrelated to that comment. Try again child.

 

[Netsua 3:16]

You quoted my post which is unrelated to that comment. Try again child.

As usual you’re not good for much other than taking up space and making cute comments

 

[Netsua 3:16]

@DriveInDriveOut i better not have any freaking misloads when I get to my truck in the morning
I want to tip you so you can pay for you infowars subscription this month

 

[vantexan]

The premise of CRT is not based on
ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE BAD

What's its premise then?

 

[Netsua 3:16]

What's its premise then?

Have you looked into it at all? Z provided several links yesterday

 

[vantexan]

Have you looked into it at all? Z provided several links yesterday

You specifically said "the premise of CRT is not based on ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE BAD." So tell us what is its premise?

 

[Netsua 3:16]

You specifically said "the premise of CRT is not based on ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE BAD." So tell us what is its premise?

I’m going to sleep. Read it yourself and stop obsessing over bullying me all the time. It’s getting weird
Just focus on contributing to the conversation

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

View attachment 338206As usual you’re not good for much other than taking up space and making cute comments

It's not my fault you're too much of an idiot to follow a simple conversation child.

 

[vantexan]

I’m going to sleep. Read it yourself and stop obsessing over bullying me all the time. It’s getting weird
Just focus on contributing to the conversation

Noticed you didn't reply to my earlier post at all. And it's typical of liberal bullies, calling people racist and such, to claim they're the ones being bullied.

 

[Fred's Myth]

What Nutsua fails to understand is that pushing back leads to retaliation, which escalates until it becomes class warfare, literally.

Own the fact that criminals suffer the consequences of their choices, not as a result of systemic crapism.

America needs a common external enemy to be at conflict with, in order to unite. Time for a war, Joe.

 

[Netsua 3:16]

What Nutsua fails to understand is that pushing back leads to retaliation, which escalates until it becomes class warfare, literally.

Own the fact that criminals suffer the consequences of their choices, not as a result of systemic crapism.

America needs a common external enemy to be at conflict with, in order to unite. Time for a war, Joe.

Teaching children about racism is not “pushing back”
Black people being “Criminals” has nothing to do with institutional racist elements of America

This picture didn’t happen because a lot of blacks are criminals

 

[Netsua 3:16]

It's not my fault you're too much of an idiot to follow a simple conversation child.

Did you have a good preload? Mom pick you up and bring you a sippy cup?

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

This picture didn’t happen because a lot of blacks are criminals

Where is that allowed nutso?