Center not honoring 8 hour guarantee to drivers while using PVDs

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Have to give something up to get rid of those PVD’s

They are violation of our contract right now.

 

[542thruNthru]

Have to give something up to get rid of those PVD’s

PVDs are going no where. The only things that will happen is they will finally put language about them in the contract.

 

[MECH-lift]

Ok..

@MECH-lift When done with work send DIAD message saying you're done and want your 8 hour guarantee. When they send you home anyways. Ask for DIAD messages and then file grievance if they don't pay you 8 hours.

@MECH-lift never works under 8!!!!!

RPCD LIFE

 

[burrheadd]

PVDs are going no where. The only things that will happen is they will finally put language about them in the contract.

Well I hope you get something good negotiated for that
Or do you suggest just letting them have PVDs

 

[542thruNthru]

Well I hope you get something good negotiated for that
Or do you suggest just letting them have PVDs

I would never suggest giving something for nothing.

 

[PT Car Washer]

I would never suggest giving something for nothing.

What did we get for 22.4 language? No more Saturday work for RPCD? No more 9.5 violations?

 

[542thruNthru]

What did we get for 22.4 language? No more Saturday work for RPCD? No more 9.5 violations?

I'll say it again.

I would never suggest giving something for nothing.

 

[Whither]

Look at your contract. When does the seasonal period start?

Also what would you like to do about it Wally? Strike?

Wally blushed at that

 

[Whither]

We're told to shut up if we know what's good for us.

They say jump, you say how high

 

[nWo]

Why is the union allowing PVD's before Thanksgiving anyway?

So they are trained and ready to go for peak.

 

[Brown287]

This morning the supervisors were begging drivers to take the day off work. There were so many routes cut because they're giving all of the work to the pvds and there ended up being extra drivers without routes. They had to give some of us pvd routes but then they stated that we couldn't get our 8 hour guarantee and once we were done we had to go home. Our Steward doesn't seem to be helpful and was wanting to come here to ask advice from you guys on how to proceed.

Each and every full timer has one thing in common. We all are guaranteed 8hrs of “pay”. It’s important to know the difference, as we are not guaranteed 8hrs of “work”, just 8hrs of “pay”.

 

[Wally]

PVDs are going no where. The only things that will happen is they will finally put language about them in the contract.

No helpers or PVD's before Thanksgiving or after Christmas. They are not needed anyway.

The only reason the company is cutting routes currently asking drivers to go home or work code 5 is they are afraid the PVD scabs will quit before peak. Not our problem. Pay enough and they will flock.

 

[vociferous121]

I read most of the UPS union contract/book last night out of curiosity. There is a provision that allows UPS to use non UPS employees at times of only November and December and under those times RPCD are not guaranteed 40.
Section continues stating 22.4 and 22.2 sub sections of contract also. May be wrong I'm not a lawyer.

 

[Integrity]

This morning the supervisors were begging drivers to take the day off work. There were so many routes cut because they're giving all of the work to the pvds and there ended up being extra drivers without routes. They had to give some of us pvd routes but then they stated that we couldn't get our 8 hour guarantee and once we were done we had to go home. Our Steward doesn't seem to be helpful and was wanting to come here to ask advice from you guys on how to proceed.

What did your Steward say?

 

[Commercial Inside Release]

Ask for DIAD messages. LoL!

 

[bottomups]

$40/hr janitor.

Very stressful job. I had to get out, so I retired.

 

[Trucker Clock]

I would argue pvds are not even in the contract.
They get to start same time as seasonal drivers, which is 1.5 months before helpers can be used... makes no sense.

You can argue all you want.

PVD's are dues paying seasonal package car drivers. The issue is that they drive their personal vehicle, not a package car or a rented U-Haul. But, they are still seasonal package car drivers.

 

[Trucker Clock]

I read most of the UPS union contract/book last night out of curiosity. There is a provision that allows UPS to use non UPS employees at times of only November and December and under those times RPCD are not guaranteed 40.
Section continues stating 22.4 and 22.2 sub sections of contract also. May be wrong I'm not a lawyer.

No, you're not a lawyer, and yes, you are wrong. You better read it again.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Very stressful job. I had to get out, so I retired.

They earn every Penny of the $40/hr.

 

[Drink Craft Beer]

Why is the union allowing PVD's before Thanksgiving anyway?

Had 3 PVD routes implemented on the preload this morning. Definitely wasn't due to volume but thinking it was lack of drivers.