Sportello
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Look at your post history in other threads.
Christianity
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FromOffTheStreets
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I'll try my best caiaphas!
I don't believe baptism is a work, it's an identification of a new life with Christ. It signifies outwardly the change that has taken place internally. It's like the NFL draft & the player is joining their new team.
I believe this is one of the reasons the disciples were never baptized after the resurrection. They were already coaches on this new team, grandfathered in.
In your system, none of the disciples were ever saved because they weren't baptized into Christ after he rose. I mean, if that's the way in like you say it is, then you would think it would be recorded in scripture to leave no doubt.
El Correcto
god is dead
Once they are dead I’m sure 100% positive these conversations will no longer matter to what is left of them.
A true Christian has a sense of humor. Lighten up....
We aren't told of the disciples baptism but we are told of the tongues of fire that rested on their heads as they received the Holy Spirit in Acts 2:3. Does that mean that we all are supposed to receive the Holy Spirit that way? No other examples are given of such, making the Apostles unique. But every example of conversion of Christians involved a symbolic immersion in water. Symbolic of Christ's burial and resurrection. Nowhere is there an example of someone just saying he wanted to be saved and he was then saved. The Apostle Paul was baptized. So was the Ethiopian eunuch. So was Cornelius. I'm going to go with their examples of conversion rather than any other way.
Integrity
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Bible Gateway passage: Ephesians 3:14-19 - New International Version
A Prayer for the Ephesians - For this reason I kneel before the Father, from whom every family in heaven and on earth derives its name. I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through...
And nowhere there does it say you become a Christian by just saying so, praying, making a proclamation.Bible Gateway passage: Ephesians 3:14-19 - New International Version
A Prayer for the Ephesians - For this reason I kneel before the Father, from whom every family in heaven and on earth derives its name. I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through...www.biblegateway.com
Integrity
Binge Poster
Who decides who is a true Christian? You?
Integrity
Binge Poster
Never said it did.
Believing in Jesus is all that is needed.
Bible Gateway passage: John 3:16-17 - New International Version
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
tourists24
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Is it ok for a non Christian to post personal attacks?
Chris Hedges: You Saved Julian Assange
After 14 years of persecution, Julian Assange will go free. We must honor the hundreds of thousands of people across the globe who made this happen.
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SPIRITUALITY LIVES!!!
El Correcto
god is dead
Christians on this site routinely paint a picture of wisdom and personally attack people by describing their “sin” or demeaning their personal life because of their “sin”.
When they do that it is all good to let them know about their beliefs and how silly they are. You have to be a pretty uninformed and silly individual to take the Bible so seriously you go around doing that to people.
tourists24
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Gotcha, so things will continue as normal then. Carry on.
El Correcto
god is dead
Hopefully not. You know they could just grow up and quit believing in fairytales and things that are proven to be false.
But I doubt it’ll happen.
tourists24
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You are correct. It won't happen. Which is why I say things will continue as normal.
Apparently you didn't read the post I replied to.
James 2:19.Never said it did.
Believing in Jesus is all that is needed.
Bible Gateway passage: John 3:16-17 - New International Version
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
We all sin. Christians aren't perfect. You must.decide whether to try to be pleasing to God or to reject God. Your choice.
Integrity
Binge Poster
I did.
Integrity
Binge Poster
What Does James 2:19 Mean?
You believe that God is one You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder.
