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vantexan

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you cant have bombs either as a christian right? how can you square thou shall not kill with having bombs or nukes?
Or guns or knives or poison or... They aren't intrinsically evil. Only the intent of the user is evil if they are used to attack others. And because we have evil leaders like Putin with a lot of nukes we must have them too as a deterrent.
 

rickyb

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Or guns or knives or poison or... They aren't intrinsically evil. Only the intent of the user is evil if they are used to attack others. And because we have evil leaders like Putin with a lot of nukes we must have them too as a deterrent.
if you cant kill then you cant have a bomb or a nuke right?

unlike obamas all of the above energy policy, being a christian is about making hard choices.

@Box Ox do you hear this? these christians wanna blow up some women with bombs and nukes!
 

tourists24

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how can we have nukes and at the same time say thou shalt not kill?
It's a tough thing to consider. New Testament teachings does not say it's ok to murder. The Old Testament has many points of killing that was justified with God. David killed Goliath, Joshua conquering the Canaanites. Exodus 22.2 states that "if a thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed".
 

rickyb

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It's a tough thing to consider. New Testament teachings does not say it's ok to murder. The Old Testament has many points of killing that was justified with God. David killed Goliath, Joshua conquering the Canaanites. Exodus 22.2 states that "if a thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed".
i think it just comes down to common sense since the bible was written by a variety of authors who werent godlike with contradicting statements.
 

tourists24

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i think it just comes down to common sense since the bible was written by a variety of authors who werent godlike with contradicting statements.
No one will be God like. Did you ever notice that God used very flawed people to be His chosen leaders in the bible. Moses killed a man. David had a man killed and took his wife. Paul.... well holy moly look how flawed he was, yet all were chosen to preach in His name.
 

rickyb

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No one will be God like. Did you ever notice that God used very flawed people to be His chosen leaders in the bible. Moses killed a man. David had a man killed and took his wife. Paul.... well holy moly look how flawed he was, yet all were chosen to preach in His name.
so the bible has contradicting views

so how do you know what to do? just guess?
 

tourists24

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so the bible has contradicting views

so how do you know what to do? just guess?
You have to look at what is being taught in the context of what the story is telling. Just because Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John don't say the exact same words doesn't mean their stories contradict one another. If you don't find the answer in one part of the bible you check somewhere else. You don't just guess. You pray on the matter and ask Christ to guide your heart to do the right thing.
 

rickyb

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You have to look at what is being taught in the context of what the story is telling. Just because Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John don't say the exact same words doesn't mean their stories contradict one another. If you don't find the answer in one part of the bible you check somewhere else. You don't just guess. You pray on the matter and ask Christ to guide your heart to do the right thing.
sounds like a guess.
 

vantexan

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so being a christian is a guessing game
You haven't demonstrated you are familiar with what being a Christian is. Of course we want peace. We want to live in peace. But others don't. Even some who claim to be Christian. So we're vigilant. Might not matter to you but a lot of people want to protect their children from harm. Not only at the local level but nationally and internationally.
 

tourists24

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if christianity doesnt definitely say anything about killing people or not, then i would look elsewhere for advice on that. you can still read the book but educate yourself further.
and you will search until you find what you want to hear. I put my faith in the bible teaching. If something is confusing then sure, go and see what others say about it. Heck it's one of the reasons I am on this forum, just look at the difference of opinion on the religion thread. Whether I agree or not with what gets posted, each member has a view that makes me go and search for answers. They all get me thinking and look to further my knowledge. If I feel the purpose of others is of genuine objectivity in faith then it means more to but I will look up anything I feel is productive
 

rickyb

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You haven't demonstrated you are familiar with what being a Christian is. Of course we want peace. We want to live in peace. But others don't. Even some who claim to be Christian. So we're vigilant. Might not matter to you but a lot of people want to protect their children from harm. Not only at the local level but nationally and internationally.
i am because i just talked to you guys about it and the bible has contradicting views on murder. no definite answer

thats why i said read some books too so you can figure out how you should act.
 

rickyb

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and you will search until you find what you want to hear. I put my faith in the bible teaching. If something is confusing then sure, go and see what others say about it. Heck it's one of the reasons I am on this forum, just look at the difference of opinion on the religion thread. Whether I agree or not with what gets posted, each member has a view that makes me go and search for answers. They all get me thinking and look to further my knowledge. If I feel the purpose of others is of genuine objectivity in faith then it means more to but I will look up anything I feel is productive
ive evolved my thought process on this forum too
 
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