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rickyb

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tourists24 said:
because to you He holds the same level as the others. I don't. Those other people were full of failure to Jesus' standard. MLK himself had mistresses. Jesus was the son of God Himself. I put Him on a much higher plane than you do, so we will view it differently.
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they died for our sins

i heard jesus had the devil in him too.
 
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rickyb

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tourists24 said:
because to you He holds the same level as the others. I don't. Those other people were full of failure to Jesus' standard. MLK himself had mistresses. Jesus was the son of God Himself. I put Him on a much higher plane than you do, so we will view it differently.
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how can you justify nukes when one of the 10 commandments is thou shalt not kill? it makes little to no sense.

theyre not precision weapons

i can understand a knife maybe bc maybe you can be careful with it although i would never do that because its gross.
 
oldngray

oldngray

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rickyb said:
its not a cover minister

you think the lead singer of SOAD is going to cover some patriotic garbage?
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Maybe you should google the definition of a cover song

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vantexan

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rickyb said:
he was a pacifist

its interesting how christians break with this

theres a philosophy phrase which says its better to suffer wrong than to do wrong.
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Jesus said there will always be wars and rumors of war. The Apostle Paul talked about putting on the whole armor of God. Used each piece of protective gear such as the helmet, breast plate, and sword to illustrate his points. If they're intrinsically evil then why would he do that? The first gentile Christian was a Roman centurion named Cornelius. And if everything on Earth is there for our use then why did God give us uranium if not to use it at least for power? It's the same as guns. Weapons in the hands of responsible men are only there for safety. A gun doesn't kill people. People kill people. A gun is only a tool. It can be used for good or bad. Same with nuclear weapons. Better if we never had them but unfortunately there are evil men who do have them and might use them except they know we have them too and they'd pay a terrible price if they used them. So highly unlikely nukes will ever be dismantled.
 
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rickyb

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vantexan said:
Jesus said there will always be wars and rumors of war. The Apostle Paul talked about putting on the whole armor of God. Used each piece of protective gear such as the helmet, breast plate, and sword to illustrate his points. The first gentile Christian was a Roman centurion named Cornelius.
If they're intrinsically evil then why would he do that? And if everything on Earth is there for our use then why did God give us uranium if not to use it at least for power? It's the same as guns. Weapons in the hands of responsible men are only there for safety. A gun doesn't kill people. People kill people. A gun is only a tool. It can be used for good or bad. Same with nuclear weapons. Better if we never had them but unfortunately there are evil men who do have them and might use them except they know we have them too and they'd pay a terrible price if they used them. So highly unlikely nukes will ever be dismantled.
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its highly unlikely nukes will ever be dismantled with christianity and islam in the state theyre in....

thou shalt not kill

if you have a nuke, how do you plan on following that LOL

i can see if you have a gun then maybe you go terminator 2 with it. in that case the only problem would be jesus was a pacifist. you'd have to square that. i feel like if jesus was attacked he wouldnt defend himself.
 
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Box Ox

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rickyb said:
lead singer of system of a down had a song called praise the lord and pass the ammunition.
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Box Ox said:

Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition - Wikipedia

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"Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition" is an American patriotic song by Frank Loesser,[1]published as sheet music in 1942 by Famous Music Corp. The song was a response to the attack on Pearl Harbor that marked United States involvement in World War II.”
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rickyb said:
haha whos that LOL some guy stuck in the matrix
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I knew you were wrong the second you posted that because I’ve actually listened to their music.
 
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vantexan

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rickyb said:
how can you justify nukes when one of the 10 commandments is thou shalt not kill? it makes little to no sense.

theyre not precision weapons

i can understand a knife maybe bc maybe you can be careful with it although i would never do that because its gross.
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The commandment "thou shalt not kill" is more precisely.translated as "thou shall not murder." Which is why Bible scholars study the original Hebrew.
 
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rickyb

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vantexan said:
The commandment "thou shalt not kill" is more precisely.translated as "thou shall not murder." Which is why Bible scholars study the original Hebrew.
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sure so how do you plan on not murdering with nukes LOL?

i can give you a pass on guns and knives if youre careful but im not sure jesus was the self defense type.
 
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vantexan

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rickyb said:
sure so how do you plan on not murdering with nukes LOL?

i can give you a pass on guns and knives if youre careful but im not sure jesus was the self defense type.
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The nukes are there as a deterrent. Without them we'd have had war with the Soviet Union. Imagine if we didn't have them how many would die in a war between the two greatest powers? How many would have died with conventional bombing? You ok with that? Because we had nukes WWIII never happened.

The Russians and Chinese don't like each other. Never have. Those countries are right up against each other and the Chinese are more powerful now. So why don't they invade Russia? Take over Siberia? Because Russia has nukes. Same with Pakistan and India. Same as India with China. Israel would no longer exist if they didn't have nukes. You keep calling nukes bad but they prevent a lot of war. Do you think if we all took nukes away then all wars would stop? No, and with today's weapons they'd be even more terrible than in the past in terms of dead and wounded.
 
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rickyb

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vantexan said:
The nukes are there as a deterrent. Without them we'd have had war with the Soviet Union. Imagine if we didn't have them how many would die in a war between the two greatest powers? How many would have died with conventional bombing? You ok with that? Because we had nukes WWIII never happened.

The Russians and Chinese don't like each other. Never have. Those countries are right up against each other and the Chinese are more powerful now. So why don't they invade Russia? Take over Siberia? Because Russia has nukes. Same with Pakistan and India. Same as India with China. Israel would no longer exist if they didn't have nukes. You keep calling nukes bad but they prevent a lot of war. Do you think if we all took nukes away then all wars would stop? No, and with today's weapons they'd be even more terrible than in the past in terms of dead and wounded.
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i dont see how you can have nukes and believe thou shalt not murder?
 

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