congrats on being married for a long time. i hope shes hot on the outside and personality too.
i dont look at it as cutting off one head of topics. were just talking and i thought u had an interesting perspective on improving society. the topics are related. i agree people have a hard time understanding each other and thats probably because we cant get past appearances of our "enemies" and dont have any perspective like listening to them.
i think u guys like to use your achievement of moving out the same way i like to talk about donating or whatever actions ive done to make the world better.
i dont know enough about collectivism to know why it succeeds or fails. my guys are in favor of worker controlled jobs and weary of giving the govt too much power although they are not free market fundamentalists.
ralph nader would probably just say join and form a local congress member watch group. i know chomsky says get organized. chris hedges says rebel.
they dont talk about having life wisdom before you join, its kinda understood you've done some research before you've joined and youre going to learn as you go and someone will teach you.
That's because they know they can't get followers from amongst people who have a certain level of understanding. They target their message to the types of people they do for a reason.
most people who protest are the youth so how much wisdom can you expect htem to have.
There are plenty of young people who have the wisdom to know that protesting is not effective if you don't know what you are doing. It seems clear to me that most of the protesters across the US are being manipulated by wealthy people, generally the types they are ostensibly protesting against, to further their own agendas. With a little thoughtfulness, perspective, and understanding, these protesters would not be so easily manipulated.
im going to repost this because i was looking for an answer on it and when you have time hopefully u can answer. i dont lie.:
what makes you think what you do is all that different from what i do?
People on this forum give you a hard time partly because they find your views to be naïve, and partly because you embody the cliché of the guy living in his parent's basement. I don't pretend to know all your circumstances, so I bring it up for the metaphorical value, not so much to be derisive.
As for what is so different between what we do, I would say the level of challenge and level of consequence for failure, i.e. risk. It's not very challenging to donate money. Studying and learning is a step up, but has very little risk.
you only live on your own because you work more than 40 hours a week.
I don't live on my own, I am the sole provider for my family. And It's not just because I work 40 or more hours a week. It's because I have worked upwards of 100 hours a week, working multiple jobs when necessary, to put a roof over the heads and food in the mouths of my wife and kids. I worked a full time job while going to college and serving in the National Guard. I have paid all of my student loans off, am close to paying off my mortgage nearly ten years early, and have no other debt.
i dont have time for that.
If that's true, I might suggest it's because you are overly self-indulgant in your anti-capitalism crusade.
also i dont really get what you mean by doing something will gain understanding on the problems we face? starting up a business is only going to enlighten you so much about hte problems.
By taking on a burden, say the burden of taking care of yourself and being your own man, you gain an understanding of just how difficult it is and how much effort it takes even just to do such a simple thing. It's not just starting a business, it's any endeavor that has consequences for failure. But I can assure you, building a successful business takes signifincant effort and a high degree of competence.
like im looking at tuition right now and its $30,000. does that count as doing something and gaining knowledge? or did i already know this crap before i looked at my course from reading articles. years ago i went to the bank to get info on a mortgage. does that count as doing something or did i already know more from just reading stuff on the housing bubble
Having gotten my degree, I can tell you that I did learn a lot, and it was a lot of time and effort. But it
is expensive. I only recommend it for someone determined to pursue a career that requires a specific degree. That way you can take a focused approach to your educational path and not waste time and money, and ideally have a career waiting for you that will give you a return on your investment.
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