Continuing Reagan’s failed War on Drugs.

vantexan

Well-Known Member
You are arguing from a position of naivete.
I've been around the block quite a few times, have worked in urban environments, have a cousin's husband just got out after 10 years in prison having worked with a Mexican cartel. I am not all wise, all knowing, and neither is IWBF. But I have seen what drugs do to people, and throwing in the towel will just exacerbate the problem and contribute to the ever downward spiral the U.S. has been on since drug usage became widespread. But I'm spitting into the wind. Most major empires in history fell apart from inner rot and decay and we'll be no different.
 
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It will be fine

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I'm arguing doing everything possible to prevent drug usage to begin with, he's arguing let people do what they want, even with the hardest drugs. I like my position better.
We've tried your idea for decades. I'm arguing try something that might work. I guess some people just want a nanny state telling people what to do in the privacy of their own homes. I'm arguing for personal freedom.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
You brought up stupid politicians shouldn't be involved in decisions about drugs. Laws do have to be made and it's those pesky politicians who make the laws. Do you not want your politicians to be informed and careful about their statements concerning your favorite mind enhancement? Or should they just do what the majority of their constituents want, no questions asked?
Gezzus :censored2:ing Mother,
Think about the logic in your posts.
This is so screwed up, I'm not going to even reply.
SMH
 

El Correcto

god is dead
I’m not promoting drug use for kids or adults. Drugs and drug use can end badly, I just think we are dramatically increasing the risk of that with a “War on Drugs”. We could punish businesses for dealing with black market sources not up to regulation standards or threatening our national security funding terror groups. We can’t punish people who are already facing life in prison for the drugs alone.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
We've tried your idea for decades. I'm arguing try something that might work. I guess some people just want a nanny state telling people what to do in the privacy of their own homes. I'm arguing for personal freedom.
No you aren't, I've seen your posts. You argue for a nanny state that allows you to do whatever you want without any interference from those who feel it's morally repugnant and medically irresponsible. Your way dooms an ever greater number of kids to a shortened life of pain and dependency. My way contains the problem to a much smaller percentage of the population.
 

floridays

Well-Known Member
We've tried your idea for decades. I'm arguing try something that might work. I guess some people just want a nanny state telling people what to do in the privacy of their own homes. I'm arguing for personal freedom.

Keep it in your own home, don't make the larger society pay for it if it blows up, I'm good with that. If it's all good why have you mentioned treatment centers numerously?
 

It will be fine

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No you aren't, I've seen your posts. You argue for a nanny state that allows you to do whatever you want without any interference from those who feel it's morally repugnant and medically irresponsible. Your way dooms an ever greater number of kids to a shortened life of pain and dependency. My way contains the problem to a much smaller percentage of the population.
You seemed confused as to the definition of nanny state. Teen usage rates of cannabis is lower in states that have legalized it. So if that's your concern you should be in favor of the policy that lowers rates.
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
No you aren't, I've seen your posts. You argue for a nanny state that allows you to do whatever you want without any interference from those who feel it's morally repugnant and medically irresponsible. Your way dooms an ever greater number of kids to a shortened life of pain and dependency. My way contains the problem to a much smaller percentage of the population.
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MAKAVELI

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I think the best thing is to ask Colorado law enforcement what has happened since decriminalization. And there are a number of definitive studies showing a negative correlation between usage and brain development in young adults. Sometimes the State has a vested interest in protecting people from themselves.
And yet thousands of teens die every year from alcohol related accidents and and even more become alcoholics as they get older.
 

rod

Retired 23 years
Daughter has a medical card in Colorado. I visit her often and stock up my own medicine cabinet.:rolleyes:

Then there is that old couple (70's) who got busted last month with over a 100 pounds of weed coming out of Colorado. They said it was for Christmas presents. I want to attend that family reunion.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
And yet thousands of teens die every year from alcohol related accidents and and even more become alcoholics as they get older.
What's you're argument? Alcohol is bad? No argument from me. You can't justify bad behavior by pointing to other bad behavior.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
My argument is alcohol is worse yet legal. Regardless that minors can't legally drink, they still do.
It's not legal for them to buy it. Imagine if you threw off all restraints and let them do what they want. That seems to be the argument of some, anything goes.
 
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