Contract proposals for 2018

[Coldworld]

But they still allow creepy ass 70's porn staches?

Don't forget the hitler staches...smh

 

[Bubblehead]

I would not be surprised at all to see facial hair allowed beginning this contract.

The problem is they are gonna try to sell it as some huge giveback.

This is a trick that sadly may have some play for the Company, who doesn't need a newly ratified contract to change appearance policy criteria.
Watch and see if our coworkers aren't willing to give away million$ in order to be permitted a goatee.

Don't forget the hitler staches...smh

We prefer, in the interest of political correctness, to call them Charlie Chaplin mustaches.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

This is a trick that sadly may have some play for the Company, who doesn't need a newly ratified contract to change appearance policy criteria.
Watch and see if our coworkers aren't willing to give away million$ in order to be permitted a goatee.

This whole issue of facial hair baffles me.

It's not a contractual issue, even worthy of concideration.


We should be focused working conditions, safety, and life altering issues, etc.



-Bug-

 

[BakerMayfield2018]

This whole issue of facial hair baffles me.

It's not a contractual issue, even worthy of concideration.


We should be focused working conditions, safety, and life altering issues, etc.



-Bug-

Put A/C in the damn trucks!!! Right Bug?!

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Put A/C in the damn trucks!!! Right Bug?!

Retrofitting an entire fleet of pkg cars with A/C is never going to happen.

New trucks put into service, is a whole different issue.


Problem being.... what company (in this business) has them ?

And, what are you willing to give up in exchange ?


But then, where do you draw the line on climatic issues ?

Arizona, Texas, Florida, Georgia, are worthy. (+ others)


For 2 months out of the year when you have heat ?

Nope.



-Bug-

 

[Brownslave688]

Retrofitting an entire fleet of pkg cars with A/C is never going to happen.

New trucks put into service, is a whole different issue.


Problem being.... what company (in this business) has them ?

And, what are you willing to give up in exchange ?


But then, where do you draw the line on climatic issues ?

Arizona, Texas, Florida, Georgia, are worthy. (+ others)


For 2 months out of the year when you have heat ?

Nope.



-Bug-

Umm every company in this business but ups has air.


We only use heat a few months out of the year.


Illness from heat happens far more than from cold in our line of work.

 

[wide load]

Guys are getting medical exemptions left and right. I would not be surprised at all to see facial hair allowed beginning this contract.

It's always in the proposal. But gets knocked off early. Both sides come with some frivolous proposals. All tactics

 

[wide load]

Retrofitting an entire fleet of pkg cars with A/C is never going to happen.

New trucks put into service, is a whole different issue.


Problem being.... what company (in this business) has them ?

And, what are you willing to give up in exchange ?


But then, where do you draw the line on climatic issues ?

Arizona, Texas, Florida, Georgia, are worthy. (+ others)


For 2 months out of the year when you have heat ?

Nope.



-Bug-

I agree 100%. Beards, AC, ventilation, etc are all stuff I've lived without for decades. If an area wants it a supplemental issue, fine. I'd rather we stick to harassment, OT, pay and H&W and pension.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Umm every company in this business but ups has air.


We only use heat a few months out of the year.


Illness from heat happens far more than from cold in our line of work.

We use heat here from late October through early April, depending on the weather.

We would use AC less than 2 months.

AC would make zero sense.

 

[Article 3]

We use heat here from late October through early April, depending on the weather.

We would use AC less than 2 months.

AC would make zero sense.

I don't believe that ac would factor into their "green" plan and fuel savings from orion. Just my thoughts.

 

[Article 3]

Retrofitting an entire fleet of pkg cars with A/C is never going to happen.

New trucks put into service, is a whole different issue.


Problem being.... what company (in this business) has them ?

And, what are you willing to give up in exchange ?


But then, where do you draw the line on climatic issues ?

Arizona, Texas, Florida, Georgia, are worthy. (+ others)


For 2 months out of the year when you have heat ?

Nope.



-Bug-

I've been in Nevada and Utah in June when the ambient temperature is over 120°friend. Dry heat or not that's jacking the rear cargo area up to 150°friend+ thanks to the translucent tops on the trucks and the dark paint job.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I've been in Nevada and Utah in June when the ambient temperature is over 120°friend. Dry heat or not that's jacking the rear cargo area up to 150°friend+ thanks to the translucent tops on the trucks and the dark paint job.

Wouldn't a Prius like solar powered AC fan solely for the cargo area be sufficient?

Whole cab AC would be extremely inefficient.

 

[wide load]

I'd like to see:
Besides full time package drivers at top rate, only qualified air drivers will be able to move miss loads from one package driver to another at a rate no less then the top air driving wage. Air drivers will only be allowed to deliver miss load ground packages at the top full time driver rate.
Also:
No employee shall be disciplined for miss loading packages.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Even if the misloads are intentional?

 

[Wilson1397]

I'd like to see:
Besides full time package drivers at top rate, only qualified air drivers will be able to move miss loads from one package driver to another at a rate no less then the top air driving wage. Air drivers will only be allowed to deliver miss load ground packages at the top full time driver rate.
Also:
No employee shall be disciplined for miss loading packages.

I ran missloads for 9 hrs the other day!! $35/ hr to just drive all around. 150 miles I put on. Easy money!!

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I've been in Nevada and Utah in June when the ambient temperature is over 120°friend. Dry heat or not that's jacking the rear cargo area up to 150°friend+ thanks to the translucent tops on the trucks and the dark paint job.

What's your (years of) experience as a pkg car driver ?



-Bug-

 

[Article 3]

What's your (years of) experience as a pkg car driver ?



-Bug-

Almost two decades.

 

[Article 3]

I'd like to see:
Besides full time package drivers at top rate, only qualified air drivers will be able to move miss loads from one package driver to another at a rate no less then the top air driving wage. Air drivers will only be allowed to deliver miss load ground packages at the top full time driver rate.
Also:
No employee shall be disciplined for miss loading packages.

Air drivers move and deliver ground misloads at pkg car rate now. And really, that's a problem.

 

[wide load]

Air drivers move and deliver ground misloads at pkg car rate now.

Not in every building brother.

 

[Article 3]

Not in every building brother.

That's who's fault?