Contract proposals for 2018

[anHOURover]

What does Canada have in common you say? They are affiliated, and part of the best union in the world. They are Teamsters.

best union in the world? what are you on?

 

[anHOURover]

Isn't blaming an election on a group of brothers in Canada an excuse?

the bully will fail again!
FACT
everyone i talk to is NO before it even started
FACT

 

[BigUnionGuy]

We will all need ky come next August.

Barely 1/3 of Local 89.... even voted on their own Rider.

So much, for the leadership of FZ.

 

[Faceplanted]

Barely 1/3 of Local 89.... even voted on their own Rider.

So much, for the leadership of FZ.

Here we go again with voter turn out

You also danced around my question about Canada, socialized healthcare, and wtf they are doing voting in our election.... where a main focus is helathcare

 

[LeadBelly]

9.5 language was actually a huge concession last contract too. Now you have to jump thru a bunch of hoops and instead of any 3 in 5 days you can only file if it's 3 days in one week. I could go over 4 days in a row and not have 9.5 protection.

See here is some dialogue I can use. You and I had superior language on 9.5 prior to the last contract. We went by the central region language. It was switched to the master language for 9.5. The Monday through Friday language is flawed compared to what we had. This is something I agree with you on. So how many have submitted proposals on this?

 

[LeadBelly]

Like I said.... what does my personal life have to do with the excuses you guys are posting right in front of my eyes?

Talking about journey men blah blah blah....who cares? 4 year top our is a huge concession. NO EXCUSES!!!!!

Without a little insight into the what you are, or where you are coming from it's a big deal. Are you one of the guys that got a job here at 18? How many other jobs have you worked? What are your life experiences? Without this information it's kinda hard to open dialogue with you. Judging from what life type you divulge, I think you are just an upset part time sorter/keyboard cowboy.

 

[LeadBelly]

Isn't blaming an election on a group of brothers in Canada an excuse?

Maybe he wouldn't have had the chance to blame them if TU would have been bothered to campaign there. My guess is they weren't that committed.

 

[LeadBelly]

Here we go again with voter turn out

You also danced around my question about Canada, socialized healthcare, and wtf they are doing voting in our election.... where a main focus is helathcare

I think you missed the point about the a Teamsters being the strongest union in North America. One of the many things that's makes us strong amongst other things is our reach. We have pull in two countries, pretty impressive, as well as politically.

 

[wide load]

I'm blaming the idiotic system that has 2 countries voting in a union election that have 2 different legal ways to handle health care. Health care is a huge issue in the USA and unions, yet canada can vote in our election and vote based on not having a care in the world when it comes to health care.

Do they use or even have teamcare? They lost nothing and changed nothing on the health care front... in the USA, we had a massive difference from the last teamster contract.

The nlrb does not exist in Canada. There should be 2 different elections for the 2 different countries. Common sense

Logically if you think us and Canada voting for the same leaders makes any sense your an idiot.

Actually if you think the title is United States of Teamsters, then you are an idiot. But I'll play your game some more. You're creating rules that suit your interests. What happens if FZ won the US and Hoffa wins Canada? 2 Presidents? And we are on a union decline, are you suggesting we not branch out to other countries? I mean grow up kid. Your guy lost. Wipe your GD tears an move the friend on. I can't believe we have so many cry babies in the place.

 

[wide load]

Do they use or even have teamcare? They lost nothing and changed nothing on the health care front... in the USA, we had a massive difference from the last teamster contract.

Did they vote on our contract? You do know there are teamsters in this union other than UPS? I don't have teamcare and I voted on the contract. I also voted in the election. Do you understand what your even saying?

 

[Faceplanted]

Actually if you think the title is United States of Teamsters, then you are an idiot. But I'll play your game some more. You're creating rules that suit your interests. What happens if FZ won the US and Hoffa wins Canada? 2 Presidents? And we are on a union decline, are you suggesting we not branch out to other countries? I mean grow up kid. Your guy lost. Wipe your GD tears an move the friend on. I can't believe we have so many cry babies in the place.

Yes. Should be 2 presidents for 2 different countries as both countries have totally different health care and pension systems. It's common sense. If you honestly think otherwise I will go ahead and call you dumb. Anybody with common sense can understand why there should be a presidents for each country. Most (even ups) big companies have diff managment/presidents
for diff countries as diff countries have diff issues and challlanges.


I'm not sour at all, all im claiming ibt/old guard aka the people in charge of negotiating concession filled contracts are unliked in this USA.

And bug still didn't answer my question

 

[Brownslave688]

How can we keep our pensions funded when we continuously allow 2-3 supervisors work every preload and local sort everyday? This issue and harassment need to be taken care of in negotiations!!

What does sups working have to do with pension funds?


If you're implying that current employees pay for current retirees benefits......well that's a Ponzi scheme and we should be fighting to end that model.

 

[Faceplanted]

Did they vote on our contract? You do know there are teamsters in this union other than UPS? I don't have teamcare and I voted on the contract. I also voted in the election. Do you understand what your even saying?

So Canadian ups employees don't vote on ups contracts?????

 

[wide load]

Most (even ups) big companies have diff managment/presidents
for diff countries as diff countries have diff issues and challlanges.

But, there is only one CEO now is there?

 

[BigUnionGuy]

And bug still didn't answer my question

Barely 1/3 of Local 89.... even voted on their own Rider.

So much, for the leadership of FZ.

Satisfied ?

 

[Faceplanted]

But, there is only one CEO now is there?

CEO are not voted on by the average grunt. They are appointed. Bad analogy

I'll compare it to a presidental election. Canada should vote in our presidental election.... they don't because they are a different country with different issues and different rules.

 

[wide load]

So Canadian ups employees don't vote on ups contracts?????

Not the same one we do.

 

[wide load]

CEO are not voted on by the average grunt. They are appointed. Bad analogy

I'll compare it to a presidental election. Canada should vote in our presidental election.... they don't because they are a different country with different issues and different rules.

You're reaching dude. You think your dues are high now? Now you're calling for 2 presidents, cuz your guy didn't win. Are you a UPSer?

 

[wide load]

I think you missed the point about the a Teamsters being the strongest union in North America. One of the many things that's makes us strong amongst other things is our reach. We have pull in two countries, pretty impressive, as well as politically.

He knows, but only stick to talking points that fit his ideology.

 

[Faceplanted]

Not the same one we do.

Why not? International brother hood!!!! Brother!!! We should be under the same ups contract right.... o wait, they have diff health care and pension systems.... thus proving my point.

You guys must have each others phone numbers and group chat all day about browncafe... would be nice if you guys would put all this energy into a contract with no concessions instead!!!