Contract proposals for 2018

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Only problem with the 401k thing is then they start putting all of us into something like that...

Put my $500+ a week into it and I will live happily ever after

 

[hyena]

Put my $500+ a week into it and I will live happily ever after

It's not all about you d*. The thread is contract proposals , do I need to report you for being off topic?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

It's not all about you d*. The thread is contract proposals , do I need to report you for being off topic?

Personal attack post reported.
Do not pass Go. Just go directly to jail

 

[Coldworld]

It's not all about you d*. The thread is contract proposals , do I need to report you for being off topic?

Report his ass!!

 

[Coldworld]

Personal attack post reported.
Do not pass Go. Just go directly to jail

Get put in a cage with monkey butt and no thank you

 

[Coldworld]

Put my $500+ a week into it and I will live happily ever after

True but you know if they put that money into a 401(k) UPS would try to rip us off on the amount

 

[Coldworld]

I like that idea but good luck trying to collect.

I think they should give them a better starting progression. $10 to start and a flat after you make book. Then fifty cents every 6 months for the first four years. That way you would give them some incentive to stay.

Also get rid of the part time pension. That would benefit the workers and the company.
Just put a set amount into their 401k equal to what the company pays out now.

That way if they leave before they are vested, they still get something and the company doesn't have to worry about that liability down the road.

$10 an hour to start is not enough there are some places where the minimum wage is more than that

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

True but you know if they put that money into a 401(k) UPS would try to rip us off on the amount

I ly people from the West coast

 

[Coldworld]

I ly people from the West coast

What's wrong with being a West Coast gangster

 

[Coldworld]

Put my $500+ a week into it and I will live happily ever after

With that mean that you'll never come back to this site again???

 

[Brownslave688]

With that mean that you'll never come back to this site again???

I know you have all kind of surepost problems.


I had multiple packages today that I delivered to the house NEXT DOOR. as in I delivered 324 smith street and 322 smith street went to the post office.

So much for proximity stops.

 

[Coldworld]

I know you have all kind of surepost problems.


I had multiple packages today that I delivered to the house NEXT DOOR. as in I delivered 324 smith street and 322 smith street went to the post office.

So much for proximity stops.

I thought that UPS and the Teamsters had a meeting a while back to address that. The only sure post package that I delivered is either to the post office or to a house that has a ground delivery attached to it I have never delivered a sure post package to a house by itself

 

[Brownslave688]

I thought that UPS and the Teamsters had a meeting a while back to address that. The only sure post package that I delivered is either to the post office or to a house that has a ground delivery attached to it I have never delivered a sure post package to a house by itself

They addressed size and weight but there's no direct wording for what close proximity is.

I'm interested to ask about it Saturday at our union meeting.

 

[Coldworld]

They addressed size and weight but there's no direct wording for what close proximity is.

I'm interested to ask about it Saturday at our union meeting.

Please do, I would be curious what the unions stance is on it...I really believe they have no idea how many pkgs do go to the post office on a daily basis .

 

[10 Pt]

They addressed size and weight but there's no direct wording for what close proximity is.

I'm interested to ask about it Saturday at our union meeting.

Please do, I would be curious what the unions stance is on it...I really believe they have no idea how many pkgs do go to the post office on a daily basis .

@BigUnionGuy ,
What would be the acceptable monetary penalty and language in the next CBA for the company illegally subcontracting our negotiated work to the post office?

Commercial stops go there every day. Proximity stops go there every day.

So if an hourly worker gets terminated while making $100,000.00/yr for stealing something that would be a petty theft issue then what would be the proportionate penalty for the company stealing our bargaining unit work by diverting it to the post office?
Triple time pay per package?

It's known theft. They choose to divert it when our system knows which stops are commercial or residential. At the least, it can separate an address next door for a proximity stop.
It's time for penalty pay language for surepost violations.

 

[Brownslave688]

@BigUnionGuy ,
What would be the acceptable monetary penalty and language in the next CBA for the company illegally subcontracting our negotiated work to the post office?

Commercial stops go there every day. Proximity stops go there every day.

So if an hourly worker gets terminated while making $100,000.00/yr for stealing something that would be a petty theft issue then what would be the proportionate penalty for the company stealing our bargaining unit work by diverting it to the post office?
Triple time pay per package?

It's known theft. They choose to divert it when our system knows which stops are commercial or residential. At the least, it can separate an address next door for a proximity stop.
It's time for penalty pay language for surepost violations.

I don't understand it. The union should get a weekly report on all surepost stops. With them marked on a map in a different color than our other stops.

 

[wide load]

I don't understand it. The union should get a weekly report on all surepost stops. With them marked on a map in a different color than our other stops.

 

[Coldworld]

I don't understand it. The union should get a weekly report on all surepost stops. With them marked on a map in a different color than our other stops.

What ups will argue is that almost all surepost stops would be proximity to regular ground stops except for the really rural stuff, and just giving those pkgs to the po wouldnt give ups the advantage they need. Personally imo asking to get back packages that are a house or two away from a regular stop isn't enough.... I think it should be a larger area we are talking about...and absolutely no business...

 

[Brownslave688]

What ups will argue is that almost all surepost stops would be proximity to regular ground stops except for the really rural stuff, and just giving those pkgs to the po wouldnt give ups the advantage they need. Personally imo asking to get back packages that are a house or two away from a regular stop isn't enough.... I think it should be a larger area we are talking about...and absolutely no business...

If that's the case whatever. Don't put the language in the contract then.

 

[Brownslave688]

What ups will argue is that almost all surepost stops would be proximity to regular ground stops except for the really rural stuff, and just giving those pkgs to the po wouldnt give ups the advantage they need. Personally imo asking to get back packages that are a house or two away from a regular stop isn't enough.... I think it should be a larger area we are talking about...and absolutely no business...

I think 1/4 mile is fair.