Contract proposals for 2018

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wide load

Starting wage is a waste of time.
Yeah, tell him wide load.
Maybe the negotiators for the CBA ought to show up and negotiate for his retirement issues in 2018 like he did in 97 at his coworkers strike line.
I think he has work amnesia. If you started here as a teenager like me you want and need raises, then you get older and it's about medical, then when your older you're worried about retirement. But I guess we are to believe that David filled out his UPS application and said, "Dump everything in my retirement for the next 30 years so I can be fiscally responsiblah blah blah."? I'm glad he never held union office.
 

rudy5150

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Start them at $15/hr with annual raises of $1 up to a top out of $20/hr.

Offer those 26 or under the option of an additional $3/hr (to start and top out) if they opt out of health insurance.

$15 an hour sounds good but i dont agree on capping pay...part time or full time. Ups will rake in another 5 billion this year no need to cap anyones pay. Premium pay=Premium workers
 
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$15 an hour sounds good but i dont agree on capping pay...part time or full time. Ups will rake in another 5 billion this year no need to cap anyones pay. Premium pay=Premium workers
It was actually 9 billion and they spent 4.5 billion. Some of it on technology to reduce the workforce.
 

wide load

Starting wage is a waste of time.
This makes no sense.

I am glad that you have never held a union position.
So let's put another 6 billion in the pension? How long is that going to last? Teamsters see the mistakes of funding, unfunded liability, retirement numbers and the like. It was a learning process for decades. The "government" owes these people their money. Some people think that the Teamsters are sitting in front of a computer buying and selling investments based upon the pension. They do not even know who really controls the pension. Unless the government steps up, the CS pension is done.
 

anHOURover

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Fake, false, (ph)foney, frivolous, facetious, funky, and flamboyant facts?

Or filibustering fictitious facts with a motive to fracture feelings with your far flung forked tongue frustrating your friends?
That's a lot of friend words brother.
Once again I post the FACTS
FACT
 

anHOURover

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Sleep apnea is treatable. Are you falsifying your info on the dot exam?
Teamcare won't pay for nearly as much as my blue cross and shield plan paid for sleep apnea. Many are not able to foot the. I'll that comes with Teamcare. That's another
FACT
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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An active member trumps a scab any day.

Webster's defines a scab as follows:

Definition of SCAB

The pertinent part is #3b:

  1. b (1) : a worker who refuses to join a labor union (2) : a union member who refuses to strike or returns to work before a strike has ended (3) : a worker who accepts employment or replaces a union worker during a strike (4) : one who works for less than union wages or on nonunion terms
1. I am a card carrying Teamster
2. I honored the strike and did not cross the line at any point during the strike.
3. I have never accepted work at a struck company.
4. I have never accepted a lower wage while employed at a union company.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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So let's put another 6 billion in the pension? How long is that going to last? Teamsters see the mistakes of funding, unfunded liability, retirement numbers and the like. It was a learning process for decades. The "government" owes these people their money. Some people think that the Teamsters are sitting in front of a computer buying and selling investments based upon the pension. They do not even know who really controls the pension. Unless the government steps up, the CS pension is done.

CS is already done.

I am more concerned about my pension fund.
 
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Webster's defines a scab as follows:

Definition of SCAB

The pertinent part is #3b:

  1. b (1) : a worker who refuses to join a labor union (2) : a union member who refuses to strike or returns to work before a strike has ended (3) : a worker who accepts employment or replaces a union worker during a strike (4) : one who works for less than union wages or on nonunion terms
1. I am a card carrying Teamster
2. I honored the strike and did not cross the line at any point during the strike.
3. I have never accepted work at a struck company.
4. I have never accepted a lower wage while employed at a union company.
You conveniently forgot the first part of your note number 2. You failed to support your co-workers on the strike line and accepted employment from a non-union company during the strike. Not only that but you disparage members on here that support the union and the contract. Your remember the term Joe Union? Yeah, you're a scab at heart. You can't hide it here and Webster has probably never seen the likes of your "card-carrying" Teamster attitude either.
 

wide load

Starting wage is a waste of time.
CS is already done.

I am more concerned about my pension fund.
Of course you are. I expected no less. Well, you will get a survey on the contract. I suggest you use it and choose wisely. However, the group of your work peers will get the same survey. They may not share the same division of "the pie" as you.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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So part of my Teamster oath is to sit in a lawn chair on the side of the road, drink beer and yell at cars driving by our picket line? Thanks, but no thanks.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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Of course you are. I expected no less. Well, you will get a survey on the contract. I suggest you use it and choose wisely. However, the group of your work peers will get the same survey. They may not share the same division of "the pie" as you.

Our local has contract proposal meetings in which they compile our suggestions, weed out the frivolous and forward the remaining to the IBT Negotiating Team.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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So you think a transient Workforce is efficient? Evidently you've never had a business. Or common sense.

How hard is it to read a PAL label and load accordingly? Or, better yet, how hard is it to unload packages from a trailer labels up on a conveyor, chute or slide?
 
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So part of my Teamster oath is to sit in a lawn chair on the side of the road, drink beer and yell at cars driving by our picket line? Thanks, but no thanks.
Yeah and if everybody was like you there'd be nobody on the strike line.
 
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