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fishtm2001

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And it has become more and more clear that many in the Bush administration were part of the Swamp and hate Trump about as much as any Democrat. I see George W. Bush hobnobbing with the Obama's and I think two things: 1. Republicans must feel betrayed by that. 2. Democrats must feel betrayed by that. If they're just trying to set an example for the rest of us great but you keep seeing quotes from people who are no longer in the Trump administration but were also in the Bush administration and you can't help but wonder if the vast majority of Washington are only in it for themselves and not trying to improve the average American's life.
Probably just payback for Obama not pursuing war crimes against him and Cheney.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Amazing how a left wing rag like slate can turn on a dime and completely change their narrative as we approach election time.

They had it right the first time, but apparently their TDS and desire to get rid of President Trump is more important than sticking by the facts: China lied, people died.

 

fishtm2001

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Do you think the CIA stopped their intense interrogations when Obama took over? How many people did Obama kill by drone including Americans? Even wedding parties with children present.
He stopped the torture and his record on "collateral damage as Repubs like to call it wasn't even close to Bush's. Also, he actually got Bin Laden, something George and Cheney got bored attempting to do.
 

fishtm2001

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How delusional does someone have to be to refuse to accept the fact that communist China unleashed this virus and lied to the entire international community about it.

Fauci himself admitted President Trump's travel restrictions saved countless lives. Democrats opposed the move, including Joe Biden.
donald the Dense likes to make up alternate realities where millions of Americans would have died if not for his travel ban on China. The ban had many exceptions and thousands of people made the trip. Anyway, the virus was already here by that time.
 

vantexan

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He stopped the torture and his record on "collateral damage as Repubs like to call it wasn't even close to Bush's. Also, he actually got Bin Laden, something George and Cheney got bored attempting to do.
He was informed that an individual in a certain house was probably Bin Laden. He put it off close to 2 years before doing anything. And that search was begun under Bush, not Obama. And you're obfuscating. Obama droned more people, and deported more illegal immigrants, than anyone else.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
He was informed that an individual in a certain house was probably Bin Laden. He put it off close to 2 years before doing anything. And that search was begun under Bush, not Obama. And you're obfuscating. Obama droned more people, and deported more illegal immigrants, than anyone else.
And don't forget, Joe Biden was against killing Osama Bin Laden. Weak loser.
 

vantexan

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donald the Dense likes to make up alternate realities where millions of Americans would have died if not for his travel ban on China. The ban had many exceptions and thousands of people made the trip. Anyway, the virus was already here by that time.
And if the virus was already here how can it be any one person's fault outside of China? Too contagious to contain. We can only hope they come up with a vaccine or the virus keeps mutating into a milder and milder form. In the history of viruses there has never been one that just keeps raging in its most extreme form. They fizzle out at some point, which the Democrats refuse to admit with an election coming up.
 

It will be fine

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And if the virus was already here how can it be any one person's fault outside of China? Too contagious to contain. We can only hope they come up with a vaccine or the virus keeps mutating into a milder and milder form. In the history of viruses there has never been one that just keeps raging in its most extreme form. They fizzle out at some point, which the Democrats refuse to admit with an election coming up.
Which is it? Too contagious to contain or China’s fault for not containing it?
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Which is it? Too contagious to contain or China’s fault for not containing it?
Too contagious to contain after China lied to the entire world about it and censored it's citizens who tried to sound the alarm, all while knowingly exporting the virus around the globe.

Sad to watch Americans so consumed by TDS they are willing to defend a brutal authoritarian communist dictatorship.
 

vantexan

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Which is it? Too contagious to contain or China’s fault for not containing it?
It was China's fault for letting a hell of lot of Wuhan residents travel internationally while restricting them from traveling domestically. Remember how bad Italy had it? A lot of business is conducted in the garment industry between Milan and Wuhan. Several hundred thousand Chinese live in Milan and a lot of Chinese from Wuhan were visiting their relatives in Milan during the biggest Chinese holiday, the Chinese New Year. It was China's fault for telling the world it wasn't transmitted person to person while doing their damnest to quarantine people in Wuhan and surrounding cities(and yet still let a lot of them travel internationally!).
 

It will be fine

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It was China's fault for letting a hell of lot of Wuhan residents travel internationally while restricting them from traveling domestically. Remember how bad Italy had it? A lot of business is conducted in the garment industry between Milan and Wuhan. Several hundred thousand Chinese live in Milan and a lot of Chinese from Wuhan were visiting their relatives in Milan during the biggest Chinese holiday, the Chinese New Year. It was China's fault for telling the world it wasn't transmitted person to person while doing their damnest to quarantine people in Wuhan and surrounding cities(and yet still let a lot of them travel internationally!).
So you’re saying with a proper response a country as large and populous as China could have easily contained the virus?
 

vantexan

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And the Iraqis we were fighting were so brutal that many Iraqi leaders switched sides and supported the Americans because they could clearly see a difference between what the Americans were doing and what their brutal fellow Iraqis were doing. Turned the tide of the war. And when Obama pulled us out those really brutal Iraqis became ISIS which killed hundreds of thousands and displaced millions. That aftermath your article talks about includes what ISIS did to the country while Obama fiddled. But you won't hear your side ever admit it. To hear your side tell it a few people tortured to get vital information is much worse than letting religious crazies slaughter hundreds of thousands while trying to establish a caliphate.
 
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