Coronavirus

[vantexan]

I just haven't heard of many MDs going back for master's degrees. Or working on their first year of a master's degree while supervising treatments. Maybe it's more common than I think.

Possibly the way the Chinese do things?

 

[Box Ox]

Possibly the way the Chinese do things?

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Medicine in China - Wikipedia.

"The Chinese medical education system follows the British system, but it compressed from six years to five years to shorten the educational cycle. To become a medical doctor, a person needs to study for 5 years at a medical school.[1][2] After graduation, young doctor needs to complete 2-3 years of residency training, including training for subspecialty.[3]

Upon graduation, the graduate must work as a resident physician for few years to be eligible to take a National Medical Licensing Examination (NMLE) for physician certification. This examination is conducted by the National Medical Examination Center (NMEC). Without approval of registration by the Ministry of Health one can not practice medicine in China as a physician or assistant physician.[4]"

 

[zimbomb]

It's your Democrats that implemented the $600/wk unemployment benefit. The Republicans wanted it based off the States unemployment calculations. Roughly 70% if what you typically make.

Bernie Sanders threatened to hold up the whole stimulus package if the Republicans didn't cave in.

The Republicans got some of what they wanted, so they compromised.

You do realize what is holding up the next stimulus package, don't you?

The Republicans, including Trump, don't want to maintain the $600/wk benefit. They want it reduced.

Pelosi walked away, demanding the $600/wk stay. The Republicans didn't give in this time. Trump wanted $300 from the Feds and $100 from the States. A little more reasonable than $600/wk. So blame Schumer and Pelosi, not Trump, for PTers making less working than unemployed.

Pegged unemployment benefits would simply be impossible to administer. Everyone with half a brain knows that on both sides. Anyway the reason $600 passed in the first place was southern states gutted benefits and local economies would have crashed. A state like Florida for example a person with a six figure life style can't live on $300 a week. Dems wanted 6, reps came back with 2... Failure is bipartisan and the people will suffer.

 

[Mugarolla]

Pegged unemployment benefits would simply be impossible to administer.

Really? The States have been doing it for over 80 years and don't seem to have a problem administering unemployment benefits.

A state like Florida for example a person with a six figure life style can't live on $300 a week.

And they can live on $600/wk?

Dems wanted 6, reps came back with 2

Originally, the Republicans at least wanted to cap the benefit so someone would not collect more being unemployed than working. The Democrats wanted nothing to do with this. So my point still stands in replying to @Jumpin Jack Flash. Don't blame Trump or the Republicans for paying someone more to not work than to work. That falls squarely on the Democrats.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

Pegged unemployment benefits would simply be impossible to administer. Everyone with half a brain knows that on both sides. Anyway the reason $600 passed in the first place was southern states gutted benefits and local economies would have crashed. A state like Florida for example a person with a six figure life style can't live on $300 a week. Dems wanted 6, reps came back with 2... Failure is bipartisan and the people will suffer.

The people will suffer because of the government politicizing a virus and causing mass-hysteria, just so they can prove to you how much you need your government. With the help of the media, this virus has been touted with the ability to kill everyone, when in reality it is closer to 0.3% fatality rate. Now, who controls the media?

 

[MAKAVELI]

The people will suffer because of the government politicizing a virus and causing mass-hysteria, just so they can prove to you how much you need your government. With the help of the media, this virus has been touted with the ability to kill everyone, when in reality it is closer to 0.3% fatality rate. Now, who controls the media?

Well we all know Putin controls the right wing media.

 

[Jumpin Jack Flash]

Really? The States have been doing it for over 80 years and don't seem to have a problem administering unemployment benefits.



And they can live on $600/wk?



Originally, the Republicans at least wanted to cap the benefit so someone would not collect more being unemployed than working. The Democrats wanted nothing to do with this. So my point still stands in replying to @Jumpin Jack Flash. Don't blame Trump or the Republicans for paying someone more to not work than to work. That falls squarely on the Democrats.

Actually it’s Trumps Bill. He signed it! He had veto power.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

Well we all know Putin controls the right wing media.

Funny thing is that there really are only a handful of people that decide what you get to hear.

 

[zimbomb]

Really? The States have been doing it for over 80 years and don't seem to have a problem administering unemployment benefits.



And they can live on $600/wk?



Originally, the Republicans at least wanted to cap the benefit so someone would not collect more being unemployed than working. The Democrats wanted nothing to do with this. So my point still stands in replying to @Jumpin Jack Flash. Don't blame Trump or the Republicans for paying someone more to not work than to work. That falls squarely on the Democrats.

States don't have a problem administering jobless benefits? What world do you live in?

$600 was a bipartisan agreement. Any talk of a cap is not remotely possible given the age of the systems in most states. Also how would a "cap" even be implemented. Does the fed make up the difference? When the difference in maximum jobless benefits between a state like Florida is less than half of Massachusetts does our federal tax dollars make up the difference? Any talk about anything but a flat dollar amount is political pandering and you should not fall for it. The number needs to be figured out and OUR elected officials have failed us in a spectacular fashion.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

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Medicine in China - Wikipedia.

"The Chinese medical education system follows the British system, but it compressed from six years to five years to shorten the educational cycle. To become a medical doctor, a person needs to study for 5 years at a medical school.[1][2] After graduation, young doctor needs to complete 2-3 years of residency training, including training for subspecialty.[3]

Upon graduation, the graduate must work as a resident physician for few years to be eligible to take a National Medical Licensing Examination (NMLE) for physician certification. This examination is conducted by the National Medical Examination Center (NMEC). Without approval of registration by the Ministry of Health one can not practice medicine in China as a physician or assistant physician.[4]"

Perhaps it was merely an academic endeavor, rather than part of a certification process. Or perhaps it is a way to add specialties to your credentials.

 

[Box Ox]

Perhaps it was merely an academic endeavor, rather than part of a certification process. Or perhaps it is a way to add specialties to your credentials.

Could've been a hobby degree. I wouldn't go back for a master's after 5 years of med school and 2-3 years of residency.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Could've been a hobby degree. I wouldn't go back for a master's after 5 years of med school and 2-3 years of residency.

That's why the Chinese will win.

 

[Mugarolla]

$600 was a bipartisan agreement.

Sort of, but not really. The Republicans did not agree to the $600 until the Democrats threatened to stall the entire stimulus, thus nobody getting any money. They had to agree to it to get the stimulus passed and money to the unemployed, to the businesses and to the public.

Any talk of a cap is not remotely possible given the age of the systems in most states.

The States already cap unemployment at a certain amount, I don't care how old the system is.

When the difference in maximum jobless benefits between a state like Florida is less than half of Massachusetts does our federal tax dollars make up the difference?

The unemployment benefits are determined by the States. It's not the Feds fault that Massachusetts pays more than Florida. In the case of a cap on the CARES Act, the unemployed in Florida may get the entire $600, while those unemployed in Massachusetts may get less than the full $600 if that, combined with the States unemployment, equals more than they typically make.

Nobody should get more money being unemployed than they made while working.

Also how would a "cap" even be implemented. Does the fed make up the difference?

The State pays their share of the unemployment, sometimes 50% or 70% of their normal pay. If the additional $600 from the Feds does not put them over the already calculated normal pay, then they get the full $600. Or else, they get less than the full amount if it puts them over the already calculated pay the State has already done. It's simple math.

Again, nobody should make more being unemployed than they do working.

Any talk about anything but a flat dollar amount is political pandering and you should not fall for it.

How many times do I have to repeat this. Nobody should make more money being unemployed than they do working. Your flat dollar amount does not take any of this into account, unless it is capped.

 

[Jumpin Jack Flash]

172,606 dead Americans, 5.529+million infected. The US had another 1,000+ day, 1,071 is the tally. Like a broken record the states of Florida and Texas led the way with 205 and 160 respectively. One-third of all Covid19 deaths today have come from these two states. The state of Georgia has had its deadliest week since the pandemic began.

 

[zimbomb]

Sort of, but not really. The Republicans did not agree to the $600 until the Democrats threatened to stall the entire stimulus, thus nobody getting any money. They had to agree to it to get the stimulus passed and money to the unemployed, to the businesses and to the public.



The States already cap unemployment at a certain amount, I don't care how old the system is.



The unemployment benefits are determined by the States. It's not the Feds fault that Massachusetts pays more than Florida. In the case of a cap on the CARES Act, the unemployed in Florida may get the entire $600, while those unemployed in Massachusetts may get less than the full $600 if that, combined with the States unemployment, equals more than they typically make.

Nobody should get more money being unemployed than they made while working.



The State pays their share of the unemployment, sometimes 50% or 70% of their normal pay. If the additional $600 from the Feds does not put them over the already calculated normal pay, then they get the full $600. Or else, they get less than the full amount if it puts them over the already calculated pay the State has already done. It's simple math.

Again, nobody should make more being unemployed than they do working.



How many times do I have to repeat this. Nobody should make more money being unemployed than they do working. Your flat dollar amount does not take any of this into account, unless it is capped.

Agreed is final. You can't shape a narrative that one side Stonewalled because it got through. Give and take. Massive bailout to industry, massive return of the tax payers money to hold them over. The thing is both sides bailed out the rich and too many of us plebs would tank the economy without an income.

I'd be all for a reasonable solution to the pocket change problem our nation is currently dealing with, but logistical bottlenecks are at even turn.

Currently most jobless people got $600 a week from the federal government. It's fair, everyone got the same.

States top it off based on their own systems

What you want is what? A total cap? Where our taxes dollars full up the short falls of southern States?

Or income based? Where the rich are rewarded in our tax dollars?

The real solution would have been give everyone one x amount of dollars. Reduce it according to unemployment numbers or other economic indicator's. But no both sides needed to you use to send tax payer money to their friends. Imagine if it was 2 bills, one for the people first and business 2ed.

 

[Mugarolla]

What you want is what? A total cap? Where our taxes dollars full up the short falls of southern States?

Or income based? Where the rich are rewarded in our tax dollars?

Every unemployed American got an extra $600 from the Federal Government, whether they typically made $200/wk or $2000/wk. This $600 is coming from our tax dollars, or it will down the road.

So, you're OK with giving someone $600/wk, on top of the $100/wk they already get from their State, when this person typically only makes $200/wk? That adds up to a person collecting $700/wk when they only make $200/wk working.

The cap would be their typical $200/wk. They would collect the same amount while unemployed as they would while working. Or are you OK with giving them an additional $500 over and above what they typically make?

It looks like the poor are being rewarded with our tax dollars by doubling, or tripling their income while they're unemployed.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

No hazard pay, no masks, gloves, or disinfectants on a daily basis. OT for PTers who are just that PTers. If they wanted full-time, they’d of applied for full-time work.
I know the answers supplied will be that’s the National agreement or you need to look at your local. Looking at your is a divided union. Different rules and policies.

You could quit? Or you and your helper will both be required to wear masks. Simple solution. We know the union will support mask wearing, because UPS will.

They’ve been getting paid $600 a week since March. They’ll make more than a loader in 2020.

 

[zimbomb]

Every unemployed American got an extra $600 from the Federal Government, whether they typically made $200/wk or $2000/wk. This $600 is coming from our tax dollars, or it will down the road.

So, you're OK with giving someone $600/wk, on top of the $100/wk they already get from their State, when this person typically only makes $200/wk? That adds up to a person collecting $700/wk when they only make $200/wk working.

The cap would be their typical $200/wk. They would collect the same amount while unemployed as they would while working. Or are you OK with giving them an additional $500 over and above what they typically make?

It looks like the poor are being rewarded with our tax dollars by doubling, or tripling their income while they're unemployed.

I'm am 100% okay with people making more not working. There's simply no practical alternative outside of just lowering the dollar amount for everyone. That's the reality of the situation. The systems are not designed for pandemic level unemployment numbers. Let alone much flexibility in the archaic digital backends running the show.

Using the current method of running the money through the states unemployment systems, a flat dollar amount is the only way it works.

This is a round hole for a round enough peg solution. You're talking square pegs...

 

[Mugarolla]

I'm am 100% okay with people making more not working.

Of course you are.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

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One-third of all Covid19 deaths today have come from these two states. The state of Georgia has had its deadliest week since the pandemic began.

Drop in the bucket compared to States run by idiot Democrats.