Coronavirus

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
I have no idea what all that is supposed to be seriously. What is your point? Seat belts are oppression? Steps to protect the public health are oppression? Are regulation on restaurants requiring food be stored properly or building codes requiring buildings be built properly oppression? How far does it go? Does government mandating children going to school is that oppression? are states requiring a standards before a person can practice law or medicine in that state oppression? what about protections that are placed on places of employment to protect workers? is that oppression?

I am afraid to tell you this but your perspective is pure nonsense, the government intrudes in our lives in a million different ways and you mfers don't care and don't even notice and pretend that wearing a mask to go to targets is oppression, it is very strange thinking.

Again, no reading comprehension skills, deflection, argument absurdum, strawman argument. I don't feel the need to argue the points you brought up that you think that I'm making. I made my point very clear, and you either don't understand, or pretend to not understand. That oppressive education you got didn't work out too well for you.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Again, no reading comprehension skills, deflection, argument absurdum, strawman argument. I don't feel the need to argue the points you brought up that you think that I'm making. I made my point very clear, and you either don't understand, or pretend to not understand. That oppressive education you got didn't work out too well for you.
how do you feel about seatbelts? i read what you wrote a few times but u say i dont understand.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
This is nonsense, the masks and social distancing are precautions to enable more people to go out. It is very strange to form an identity around not wearing a mask and pretending wearing one is taking away your freedom, it is an irrational and clownish pov.

It's because there is no evidence that masks slow the spread of ili. If the government can mandate that we do something that has no evidence to support it, and idiots will enforce it against other people smarter than them, the results will not be pretty. It's very strange to build an identity around a mental illness that used to be known as the Democratic Party, and believe everything they say despite the evidence against it. That doesn't make sense, it is an irrational and clownish pov.
 
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zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
Let me get back to you on that

He's baiting you. One minute we're the richest country on earth the next we're an empire in decline. Whichever he thinks helps him make his point at the moment.

Control measures don't actually do much, except maybe delay the inevitable. This virus isn't close to the most deadly we've ever encountered, but, as a planet, we've expended more resources on failed attempts at containment than fight even worse diseases. The main reason any population may do better than others is demographic in nature. We currently have no way to know that Covid didn't sweep through some places before we were aware of its existence. We don't know why some people are susceptible and others aren't. We know O blood types have an easier time dealing with the virus.

My guess is most countries don't have the healthcare resources to keep so many people with severe health conditions alive. In those countries the people who would have died of Covid are already dead because they don't have access to the things that we use to artificially extend people's lives. How many people in the US are on drugs designed specifically to limit immune response because they have an autoimmune disorder? Those people would probably be dead in a third world country, here, pre-covid, they are alive, but more susceptible to infectious agents. People like Ricky have to smooth over complicating factors because they don't understand them, and they don't help the narrative they are pushing.
 

rod

Retired 23 years
how do you feel about seatbelts? i read what you wrote a few times but u say i dont understand.
Personally I don't believe people should be forced to use a seat belt or wear a motorcycle helmet. If people want to kill themselves--so be it. The world is over populated anyway and the gene pool needs cleaned out on occasion. (by the way-- I always use my seat belt and wear my helmet on the motorcycle---Mama didn't raise no fool).
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
Again, no reading comprehension skills, deflection, argument absurdum, strawman argument. I don't feel the need to argue the points you brought up that you think that I'm making. I made my point very clear, and you either don't understand, or pretend to not understand. That oppressive education you got didn't work out too well for you.
I think you made your points not very clearly, but I responded to what I think you were trying to say.
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
It's because there is no evidence that masks slow the spread of ili. If the government can mandate that we do something that has no evidence to support it, and idiots will enforce it against other people smarter than them, the results will not be pretty. It's very strange to build an identity around a mental illness that used to be known as the Democratic Party, and believe everything they say despite the evidence against it. That doesn't make sense, it is an irrational and clownish pov.
Mfers said the same things about seat belts, oh seat belts don't really save you they trap you in the car. here is the thing, human beings can rationalize anything. And I mean anything. If you want to rationalize your strange no masking wearing identity as some anti government control stance because you are pretending to know masks don't work based on something you read on the internet, you can do that. I'll stick with people who have some level of expertise and the track record in nation's that have implemented mass mask wearing and social distancing orders, But you do you.
 
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