MAKAVELI
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They only have data from the first 275 patients enrolled per their website .Lol
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BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
How do no your choices are moral?
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
I lost track of how many times I have proved him wrong. You can't believe a word he says anymore. He's pathetic.
golden rule. common sense. intuition. honesty.
Poop Head
Judge me.
Surprise. Speed. Violence.
like the BLM looters?
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Golden Rule = Bible. Absolute
Common sense? What is common sense for one person is not for another. Subjective
Intuition? What is intuitive is different for everyone. Subjective.
Honesty? What is truth? Absolute or subjective?
Common sense? What is common sense for one person is not for another. Subjective
Intuition? What is intuitive is different for everyone. Subjective.
Honesty? What is truth? Absolute or subjective?
america and many countries are increasingly dominated by spiritual blackout tied to market culture.
or maybe US forgien policy?
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
well i was just looking into this yesterday and they argued morality is absolute. if not, it would be associated closely with nihilism. also were born with it.
howd u get across the border with covid?
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Born with it?
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
So the issue is that businesses are paying experts to lobby for them. Ok. I can see a problem with that. But it's a fallacy to take an expert's word on anything anyway. It's called appeal to authority fallacy, just because a person is considered an expert doesn't mean their argument is correct. On the flip side, you have the ad hominem attack, just because someone is paid to say something doesn't mean It's wrong. Anyone who is not informed enough to evaluate an expert's testimony shouldn't be in a decision making role to begin with. The problem is, then, who gets to decide who is informed enough to be in a decision making position?
I have no problem with saying lobbying needs to be fixed. The problem there, as you've pointed out before, is free speech. You are free to state things in a purposefully misleading way, and you justify it by saying that you are fighting for good. At the same time, businesses are free to pay people to lobby for them, and they may even believe they are doing what's right.
I assume you brought up the economics professors in response to the experts who authored and signed on to the Great Barrington Declaration, seemingly implying that they are corrupt and can't be trusted. I came across Professor Gupta work back in March, and I have found her to be highly competent.
While we are on the subject of big business interfering with experts, you aren't concerned about the potential conflicts of interests with big pharma and a rushed vaccine, especially with Trump pushing them?
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
Who determines what is moral? Moral absolutism requires an absolute moral authority. In the absence of an absolute moral authority, morality is a matter of opinion. The closest thing we have to an absolute morality in the absence of an authority is survival of the fittest. If we base moral decisions on that standard, then the virus is a force for good.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
The golden rule is an incomplete moral standard. A masochist is justified in torturing other people under the golden rule.
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
I didn't say it was complete. I stated the origin of the the rule.
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
There is no absence of moral absolutism. It is revealed in the Scriptures. The standard of morality.
Because you don't appeal to that standard, your position is that all morality is subjective.
Believe what you want, do what you want, because the whatever one decides to do is what makes it right.
Survival of the fittest.LOL
yea i am concerned about the vaccine and whether its safe or not but i know where to look to find out if it is more or less. sometimes i know better and i dont do things, hard to explain why i dont aside from maybe i dont give a
/ arrogance.yea that was exactly my point that profs from top schools shouldnt necessarily be trusted. or even the whole profession (in this case economics) shouldnt be trusted. greger is quite critical of the medical profession too.
i dont say things to be purposefully misleading. i didnt really understand this part, maybe its my fault
, but corporations are not people and if i recall money is not speech. public citizen basically recommends enforcement and transparency for lobbyists and politicians alike.democracy means we should all be in decision making positions and if it becomes too slow, then we elect representatives to carry out our wishes, not whos proposals we agree with. if its too complicated then we set up a way for other people to qualify to make those harder decisions like doctors and judges. chomsky says authoritarian structures bear the burden of proof that they are justified (they usually are not) and if not they should be dismantled.
increasingly we live in a market driven culture where everything and everyone is for sale and that comes at expense of the truth. quite often you can have commercialism or the truth. you can have both, but i think often they are exclusive. in the matrix the humans whole world was based on a lie, and this was so they could be completely exploited.
o btw, i didnt really like the cartesian answer to how do you know everything isnt bull
, but i could be wrong. i forgot the other 2 guys, i think one guys name was russell. chomsky suggested they are posed as questions but not actually which i found interesting. i think they are both interesting and would like to hear more. i like talking to you because you raise some good points like the appeal to authority and money thing.yea but thats ridiculous because he should be putting himself in the other persons shoes.
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