Coronavirus

[rickyb]

Around here it costs $70 per test.

we dont pay anything. i def dont pay because i dont work for money in teh formal sense i do school.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

My health and safety is my responsibility. Stop trying to change the subject. Using other people's health and safety as a pretense to general behavior control is absolutely insane. It's no wonder why so many have accepted it without much thought.

And, yes, respiratory viruses can spread even if it were possible to stay away from others. You are more protected by the odds than by staying away from others.

Thin ice.

I wear a mask while I am in public areas around others.

A mask helps to reduce chances of spreading a respiratory disease if an infected person sneezes or coughs.
Cant think of any other reason to wear a mask other than to make others feel a false sense of security.

 

[newfie]

I'll say this alone so i dont fall into someone els's verbal battle.

i wear a mask so others dont have to worry about me spreading a disease to them. I hope others around me will wear one so i dont have to worry about them passing one on to me. I'm actually thinking of wearing one during the winter months just to keep from getting the flu.

With that said I do have concerns and both eyes open to the threats to our constitutional rights . I do believe the science is skewed by politics and no longer followable or completely believable.

 

[Babagounj]

The thing I wear is not really a mask, it just looks like one.
Except for doctor visits, it works everywhere.
It's real function is to block sunrays from getting to my face.
( it is a front attachment to my wide brim hat which also has a large flap attached to the back, to keep the sun off of my neck )

 

[zubenelgenubi]

you should fire whoever you get your pro big business / coronavirus theories from.

Fire? How very pro dictatorial, corporatist of you. I guess you must be coming around to the capitalist view point. Congratulations.

your health and safety is not only up to you because if i break the law and speed past you on the road, and put you at risk, then youre suddenly not responsible for your safety.

I realize that you don't understand the false equivalence you just made. Your responsibility to me, under the law, is that you not intentionally or recklessly cause me harm, it's not to keep me safe. Your first clue that your scenario didn't fit should have been the fact that you had to use the qualifier "illegally". If you cause someone harm while committing a crime, of course you are responsible. But, if I care about my safety, I am responsible to be aware that drivers like you are out there, and do my best to avoid being harmed by you.

The consequences of my failure to ensure my safety are natural, in that I will suffer the physical and financial injury. Your consequences will be judicial. If you don't harm me by your reckless, illegal action, then you may still be found culpable by virtue of breaking the law.

By visiting you, your dad did nothing that is not within his rights to do. If you believe he acted recklessly, you would still have to prove he did something to harm you. In general, the law sees viruses as a force of nature. If you tried to convict your father for his actions, then, in turn everyone on up the line would have to be convicted of passing it on. It just doesn't work that way. Sorry.

That is why you are responsible for your safety. If you feel it is unsafe to be around others, then it's on you to not be around others. Your assumption of absolute authority over other people's actions makes you exactly the dictator that you accuse everyone else of being. That's called confession by projection.

Let me put it in terms you will understand. I am offering you a red pill, but it's pointless, you know that the matrix exists, you talk about the matrix as though it is a bad thing, but you only think that because you don't think the matrix is controlling enough. You are like a combination of Cipher and Agent Smith. Your simultaneous love and hatred of the matrix has you conflicted to your very core. The only thing that keeps you somewhat on an even keep is your completely unconflicted hatred of other people's free will and rights. You could say that is your defining quality, since it is the overriding belief that allows you to hold conflicting views of the matrix.

a restaraunt in texas is charging $50 extra for asking patrons to wear a mask, and $75 if you give your poor theories. i would collect first before giving any service.

There you go again with your pro-corporatist, anti-free speech views again. The people running this restaurant will probably only be popular with people who prefer totalitarianism, like you. Restaurants have no authority to levee fines, nor do they hold a monopoly on truth, especially when they are trying to suppress it, like that one is.

the amount of excuses you make for not staying away from others is pathetic, like other illnesses with similar symptoms is especially poor logic.

What excuses? You're not making sense. I said it's all but impossible to stay away from other people, and that doing so won't prevent the spread of viruses. Those are verifiable facts. My point about symptoms was about testing, it's not poor logic, but since you think logic has something to do with trees that have been cut down, I don't expect you to understand.

if u get food poisoning then fire the ppl you get cooking advice from, i dont remember teh last time i had it.

There you go with you dictatorial, pro-capitalism propaganda again. I don't get cooking advice from anyone, I get food poisoning when I eat at restaurants where they don't follow proper food prep hygiene, then I don't go to those restaurants again.

if you have symptoms get tested and stay at home. its not rocket science. coronavirus only 3 cause of death since it came to america. when you go out like an * you ruin ppl's ability to do the necessities like getting groceries or pumping gas without getting ill.

Symptoms of what? Hayfever? Why should anyone stay home because they have allergies? How do you expect people to get tested? You have to have an appointment to get tested, and nobody cares about inflating covid case numbers anymore, so you have to be really sick to get an appointment to get tested.

oh since you know so much how did nz and australia eliminate cases?

As much as you know. They probably had covid sweep through a couple months earlier, and obtained herd immunity naturally. All those lock downs were probably for nothing.

All that being said, I guess I owe you an apology, your dad clearly gave you covid, your ramblings are far more senseless than usual. You must be feverish. Sorry about your messed up ski season.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Thin ice.

I wear a mask while I am in public areas around others.

A mask helps to reduce chances of spreading a respiratory disease if an infected person sneezes or coughs.
Cant think of any other reason to wear a mask other than to make others feel a false sense of security.

We used to be ok with simply covering your sneeze or cough. Why is it now necessary to cover your face all the time? There is literally nothing a mask can do that your elbow won't do better.

 

[rickyb]

Fire? How very pro dictatorial, corporatist of you. I guess you must be coming around to the capitalist view point. Congratulations.


I realize that you don't understand the false equivalence you just made. Your responsibility to me, under the law, is that you not intentionally or recklessly cause me harm, it's not to keep me safe. Your first clue that your scenario didn't fit should have been the fact that you had to use the qualifier "illegally". If you cause someone harm while committing a crime, of course you are responsible. But, if I care about my safety, I am responsible to be aware that * drivers like you are out there, and do my best to avoid being harmed by you.

The consequences of my failure to ensure my safety are natural, in that I will suffer the physical and financial injury. Your consequences will be judicial. If you don't harm me by your reckless, illegal action, then you may still be found culpable by virtue of breaking the law.

By visiting you, your dad did nothing that is not within his rights to do. If you believe he acted recklessly, you would still have to prove he did something to harm you. In general, the law sees viruses as a force of nature. If you tried to convict your father for his actions, then, in turn everyone on up the line would have to be convicted of passing it on. It just doesn't work that way. Sorry.

That is why you are responsible for your safety. If you feel it is unsafe to be around others, then it's on you to not be around others. Your assumption of absolute authority over other people's actions makes you exactly the dictator that you accuse everyone else of being. That's called confession by projection.

Let me put it in terms you will understand. I am offering you a red pill, but it's pointless, you know that the matrix exists, you talk about the matrix as though it is a bad thing, but you only think that because you don't think the matrix is controlling enough. You are like a combination of Cipher and Agent Smith. Your simultaneous love and hatred of the matrix has you conflicted to your very core. The only thing that keeps you somewhat on an even keep is your completely unconflicted hatred of other people's free will and rights. You could say that is your defining quality, since it is the overriding belief that allows you to hold conflicting views of the matrix.



There you go again with your pro-corporatist, anti-free speech views again. The people running this restaurant will probably only be popular with people who prefer totalitarianism, like you. Restaurants have no authority to levee fines, nor do they hold a monopoly on truth, especially when they are trying to suppress it, like that one is.

What excuses? You're not making sense. I said it's all but impossible to stay away from other people, and that doing so won't prevent the spread of viruses. Those are verifiable facts. My point about symptoms was about testing, it's not poor logic, but since you think logic has something to do with trees that have been cut down, I don't expect you to understand.



There you go with you dictatorial, pro-capitalism propaganda again. I don't get cooking advice from anyone, I get food poisoning when I eat at restaurants where they don't follow proper food prep hygiene, then I don't go to those restaurants again.


Symptoms of what? Hayfever? Why should anyone stay home because they have allergies? How do you expect people to get tested? You have to have an appointment to get tested, and nobody cares about inflating covid case numbers anymore, so you have to be really sick to get an appointment to get tested.



As much as you know. They probably had covid sweep through a couple months earlier, and obtained herd immunity naturally. All those lock downs were probably for nothing.

All that being said, I guess I owe you an apology, your dad clearly gave you covid, your ramblings are far more senseless than usual. You must be feverish. Sorry about your messed up ski season.

firing is not unique to capitalism.

who knows what the law says here if you have corona symptoms. good chance he broke it.

me not acting recklessly keeps you safe, which means your safety depends on more than just you.

australia did not obtain herd immunity u are full of it

you dont need an appointment to get tested or be real sick i should know

how is it impossible to stay away from other ppl if the govt pays you to stay at home?

the matrix was anti capitalism, critical of exploitation which u are in favor of with ur love of capitalism.

the govt should support ppl to stay away from each other, which they have done to varying degrees. its not only my responsibility.

ur logic is pro big business logic.

 

[rickyb]

We used to be ok with simply covering your sneeze or cough. Why is it now necessary to cover your face all the time? There is literally nothing a mask can do that your elbow won't do better.

the fact that u are asking these questions means you dont understand.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

the fact that u are asking these questions means you dont understand.

Lol.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

firing is not unique to capitalism.

So It's ok to be dictatorial if enough people vote on it? Lol. You're a closet capitalist, and an open totalitarianist.

who knows what the law says here if you have corona symptoms. good chance he broke it.

Well, then, you must do your duty to the party and turn that criminal in. SMH.

me not acting recklessly keeps you safe, which means your safety depends on more than just you.

Wrong, I won't bother explaining it, again, since you don't understand.

australia did not obtain herd immunity u are full of it

You don't know that any more than you know anything else about Australia.

you dont need an appointment to get tested or be real sick i should know

It's changed, now that China got Trump out of office, no one cares about a minor cold anymore.

how is it impossible to stay away from other ppl if the govt pays you to stay at home?

Lol. I'll let you figure that one out. You need the mental exercise, this one's pretty easy, so it might take you a while.

the matrix was anti capitalism, critical of exploitation which u are in favor of with ur love of capitalism.

So what? You are in favor of totalitarianism. Name me one economic system that isn't exploitive. You can't, exploitation is making use of resources, economies are set up to facilitate exploitation.

the govt should support ppl to stay away from each other, which they have done to varying degrees. its not only my responsibility.

Nope, that's your totalitarian mind set again. The government should not treat people like herd animals.

ur logic is pro big business logic.

Not necessarily, but I guess since little brother Ricky said it, it must be true.

 

[rickyb]

So It's ok to be dictatorial if enough people vote on it? Lol. You're a closet capitalist, and an open totalitarianist.


Well, then, you must do your duty to the party and turn that criminal in. SMH.


Wrong, I won't bother explaining it, again, since you don't understand.


You don't know that any more than you know anything else about Australia.


It's changed, now that China got Trump out of office, no one cares about a minor cold anymore.


Lol. I'll let you figure that one out. You need the mental exercise, this one's pretty easy, so it might take you a while.


So what? You are in favor of totalitarianism. Name me one economic system that isn't exploitive. You can't, exploitation is making use of resources, economies are set up to facilitate exploitation.


Nope, that's your totalitarian mind set again. The government should not treat people like herd animals.

Not necessarily, but I guess since little brother Ricky said it, it must be true.

no exploitation is profiting off another workers labour

 

[Wally]

Theater of the Mask! Really good questions the left and the drive-by media are ignoring.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Theater of the Mask! Really good questions the left and the drive-by media are ignoring.

Rand Paul is a quack.

 

[Wally]

We've been immunizing people against the kung flu now since December. The numbers are in the multi millions. In this population, what are the results?
Of those millions, how many contracted covid, were hospitalized, died of covid?

 

[rickyb]

Theater of the Mask! Really good questions the left and the drive-by media are ignoring.

does the vaccine protect against hte variants?

regardless this whole situation seems very out of control, but in the larger scheme of things mankind is out of control. conservatives think we are not, they think the systems largely work but they dont.

 

[rickyb]

Rand Paul is a quack.

i dont think hes a truth teller like ron paul was.

 

[Wally]

does the vaccine protect against hte variants?

regardless this whole situation seems very out of control, but in the larger scheme of things mankind is out of control. conservatives think we are not, they think the systems largely work but they dont.

If the vaccinated population is free from covid, particularly our healthcare workers, then yes.

 

[rickyb]

If the vaccinated population is free from covid, particularly our healthcare workers, then yes.

does the vaccine protect against hte variants or do we not know yet?

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

does the vaccine protect against hte variants or do we not know yet?

I believe Fauci has said no.

 

[rickyb]

I believe Fauci has said no.

its amazing how wearing a mask is such a big deal. more concerning are the potential superbugs which have been appearing more and more last few decades and why.