Current UPS culture

[Hethatbeking]

As a "young guy" (spent 10 years working for FDX Express) the work load we're expected to shoulder is ridiculous and I'm not sure why "older guys" crap on us. First, productivity expectations are way higher for us than for those who started before the "miracle" of online shopping truly took hold. Second, we are paying for your retirement so I wouldn't it be in your interest to 1) Educate those who never worked a unionized job. 2) Help us push back on the "work until you drop" culture that's promoted by the company which only leads to attrition by injury and will increase turnover which may destabilize long term pension benefits.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

As a "young guy" (spent 10 years working for FDX Express) the work load we're expected to shoulder is ridiculous and I'm not sure why "older guys" crap on us. First, productivity expectations are way higher for us than for those who started before the "miracle" of online shopping truly took hold. Second, we are paying for your retirement so I wouldn't it be in your interest to 1) Educate those who never worked a unionized job. 2) Help us push back on the "work until you drop" culture that's promoted by the company which only leads to attrition by injury and will increase turnover which may destabilize long term pension benefits.

The 9.5 lists and 8 hour days helps keep you younger guys working. If you want to run like an idiot and skip yourn lunch that's all on you.

Worker smarter not harder.

 

[Brohn Bron]

As a "young guy" (spent 10 years working for FDX Express) the work load we're expected to shoulder is ridiculous and I'm not sure why "older guys" crap on us. First, productivity expectations are way higher for us than for those who started before the "miracle" of online shopping truly took hold. Second, we are paying for your retirement so I wouldn't it be in your interest to 1) Educate those who never worked a unionized job. 2) Help us push back on the "work until you drop" culture that's promoted by the company which only leads to attrition by injury and will increase turnover which may destabilize long term pension benefits.

My recommendations, don’t look to these guys for guidance. They talk out the side of their mouths. Talk to the guys in your center. The ones you respect.

 

[PT Car Washer]

My recommendations, don’t look to these guys for guidance. They talk out the side of their mouths. Talk to the guys in your center. The ones you respect.

The old drivers always answer with " I had to go put up with it".

 

[Foamer Pyle]

Every veteran driver KNOWS working conditions were way better before the first strike, not worse.
Not sure where you're getting your sample size.

Working conditions were not better. Half of these guys don’t know what’s it’s like to drive a car with no power steering, a high first step that met my knee cap, and i am 6ft, and a stick. That is crappy working conditions, not to mention we did everything on paper.

 

[OrionsBitch]

Working conditions were not better. Half of these guys don’t know what’s it’s like to drive a car with no power steering, a high first step that met my knee cap, and i am 6ft, and a stick. That is crappy working conditions, not to mention we did everything on paper.

Yeah with half the stops....half the weight and dimensions boxes, without the monitoring, etc. You also didn't have to deal with customers as much back then....especially before FedEx.

Also: we all know the stories of guys cutting their lawn, going to movies, playing a few holes, going swimming etc while in the clock. You can't even drive more than a mile off route or go a minute over lunch without management breathing down your neck.

Ooooo no manual steering, a higher step...big ing deal. I get that that wears in your body more but some of us "younger guys" still use some of those old ty 700's.

When telemarics came out the caught thousands upon thousands of drivers just sitting around. Don't tell me you guys hard it harder.

 

[OrionsBitch]

The 9.5 lists and 8 hour days helps keep you younger guys working. If you want to run like an idiot and skip yourn lunch that's all on you.

Worker smarter not harder.

Young guys can't get in the list for 4 years.

 

[old levi's]

Yeah with half the stops....half the weight and dimensions boxes, without the monitoring, etc. You also didn't have to deal with customers as much back then....especially before FedEx.

Also: we all know the stories of guys cutting their lawn, going to movies, playing a few holes, going swimming etc while in the clock. You can't even drive more than a mile off route or go a minute over lunch without management breathing down your neck.

Ooooo no manual steering, a higher step...big ing deal. I get that that wears in your body more but some of us "younger guys" still use some of those old ty 700's.

When telemarics came out the caught thousands upon thousands of drivers just sitting around. Don't tell me you guys hard it harder.

That high step was a MF.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Yeah with half the stops....half the weight and dimensions boxes, without the monitoring, etc. You also didn't have to deal with customers as much back then....especially before FedEx.

Also: we all know the stories of guys cutting their lawn, going to movies, playing a few holes, going swimming etc while in the clock. You can't even drive more than a mile off route or go a minute over lunch without management breathing down your neck.

Ooooo no manual steering, a higher step...big ing deal. I get that that wears in your body more but some of us "younger guys" still use some of those old ty 700's.

When telemarics came out the caught thousands upon thousands of drivers just sitting around. Don't tell me you guys hard it harder.

50 lb weight limit. Even on a heavy industrial route you could walk through the middle of the truck after the first couple deliveries. No NDA, no guaranteed delivery dates. If you don't get it delivered today just try again tomorrow. Customer complaints? If you don't like our service go ship with someone else (post office).

 

[John Boy]

Young guys can't get in the list for 4 years.

Central states can. Just have to cover the route or "planned" to cover the entire week.

 

[PT Car Washer]

That high step was a MF.

Great in the snow.

 

[MyTripisCut]

Yeah with half the stops....half the weight and dimensions boxes, without the monitoring, etc. You also didn't have to deal with customers as much back then....especially before FedEx.

Also: we all know the stories of guys cutting their lawn, going to movies, playing a few holes, going swimming etc while in the clock. You can't even drive more than a mile off route or go a minute over lunch without management breathing down your neck.

Ooooo no manual steering, a higher step...big ing deal. I get that that wears in your body more but some of us "younger guys" still use some of those old ty 700's.

When telemarics came out the caught thousands upon thousands of drivers just sitting around. Don't tell me you guys hard it harder.

The old 700’s your talking about do have a low step. The old 8’s and thousands were nasty. And the side door was about 1/4 narrower, it was a lot harder to get bulk out the side doors. We didn’t have as much bulk when I started, I do remember doing a lot of paper though. Cases and cases of paper everyday to every office it seemed like.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Central states can. Just have to cover the route or "planned" to cover the entire week.

They make sure that will not happen and no, drivers in progression have no 9.5 rights. Union said so.

 

[OrionsBitch]

Central states can. Just have to cover the route or "planned" to cover the entire week.

Well that almost never happens. I have never seen a young guy staffed on a route for an entire week. And they also can't big a route for a week.

 

[old levi's]

The Iron Maiden:

High step
Man. trans.
Powerful steering
No adj. whatsoever on the seat ( welded in place )

 

[old levi's]

Great in the snow.

never seen snow

 

[old levi's]

The old 700’s your talking about do have a low step. The old 8’s and thousands were nasty. And the side door was about 1/4 narrower, it was a lot harder to get bulk out the side doors. We didn’t have as much bulk when I started, I do remember doing a lot of paper though. Cases and cases of paper everyday to every office it seemed like.

god I hated those paper stops,

but we get a volume discount...

 

[PT Car Washer]

never seen snow

Where in the world do you live that you have never seen snow? It snows in Hawaii.

 

[old levi's]

Where in the world do you live that you have never seen snow? It snows in Hawaii.

2 blocks from Hell

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

The old 700’s your talking about do have a low step. The old 8’s and thousands were nasty. And the side door was about 1/4 narrower, it was a lot harder to get bulk out the side doors. We didn’t have as much bulk when I started, I do remember doing a lot of paper though. Cases and cases of paper everyday to every office it seemed like.

We still have 2 we use here.