Current UPS culture

[dogs.bite.me]

Hey guys it's yellow Monday.

Yeild the right of way
Expect the unexpected
Leave yourself an out
Look left right left
Overtime
Work smarter not harder

The 9.5 lists and 8 hour days helps keep you younger guys working. If you want to run like an idiot and skip yourn lunch that's all on you.

Worker smarter not harder.

 

[old levi's]

The old 700’s your talking about do have a low step. The old 8’s and thousands were nasty. And the side door was about 1/4 narrower, it was a lot harder to get bulk out the side doors. We didn’t have as much bulk when I started, I do remember doing a lot of paper though. Cases and cases of paper everyday to every office it seemed like.

DFCS office, 2nd floor, no elevator

15 boxes of paper

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Young guys can't get in the list for 4 years.

What I was trying to say that they may get the opportunity to work because others exercise their contract rights...

 

[PT Car Washer]

2 blocks from Hell

People confuse my state with heaven. Hint: Field of Dreams.

 

[MyTripisCut]

People confuse my state with heaven. Hint: Field of Dreams.

I thought I recognized your accent.....Jersey!.......

 

[old levi's]

50 lb weight limit. Even on a heavy industrial route you could walk through the middle of the truck after the first couple deliveries. No NDA, no guaranteed delivery dates. If you don't get it delivered today just try again tomorrow. Customer complaints? If you don't like our service go ship with someone else (post office).

We had a 30 year guy that would deliver late in the day to commercial stops, and if they complained he would say "I can make it later tomorrow."

We were the only show in town then.

 

[PT Car Washer]

We had a 30 year guy that would deliver late in the day to commercial stops, and if they complained he would say "I can make it later tomorrow."

We were the only show in town then.

Some of our drivers still say that. But not many.

 

[old levi's]

People confuse my state with heaven. Hint: Field of Dreams.

 

[Turdferguson]

Yeah with half the stops....half the weight and dimensions boxes, without the monitoring, etc. You also didn't have to deal with customers as much back then....especially before FedEx.

Also: we all know the stories of guys cutting their lawn, going to movies, playing a few holes, going swimming etc while in the clock. You can't even drive more than a mile off route or go a minute over lunch without management breathing down your neck.

Ooooo no manual steering, a higher step...big ing deal. I get that that wears in your body more but some of us "younger guys" still use some of those old ty 700's.

When telemarics came out the caught thousands upon thousands of drivers just sitting around. Don't tell me you guys hard it harder.

Don't forget no PAS, no EDD, no smart phones. No Orion computers to look at to show you where the stops are. No one has ever been fired for production at UPS so why are you doing double the stops?

 

[Been In Brown Too Long]

Those old power-steeringless, power-brakeless, high step narrow door package cars also didn't have rear cameras. How many of these youngsters could even begin to manage without that camera?

No shorts! Shorts were not allowed, even here in CA on 110 degree day.

Pre-load, no labels telling you where to put package and on which truck. You had to memorize every street and all number breaks on your set. Pre-loaders today don't even know what a number break is. Dispatch is somewhat leveled out before preload is run. Old days, who knows? Your set could be buried under 3000 pieces before anyone knew there was a problem.

Truly, it's just different problems now. No harder, no easier, just different. I as an old vet never had a problem helping a young guy, providing they were willing to listen. Problem is, many of them think they have it all figured out 1 year in.

 

[Lol working Mondays!]

I've been a upser for over 10 years. Grew up in a small business home. Had my own business I get it you get you get what you put in and I'm not afraid of work but I've been a driver for a little over a year and I need my body to hold up so I can provide for my family. I'm not looking for anybody to post how they work and maintain their routes but you senior guys need to educate us runners what we need to do or tips to make it 30 years. A lot of times I get handed a diad to a new route blind and all I think that day is how to keep my sup off my butt. Just help us.

 

[Lol working Mondays!]

Mr been in brown to long.... If it means anything I do appreciate guys like you. Some young guys might feel different but I'm the cover guy of a route the guy has over 20 years in and is always -.10 to +.10 and I just started talking to him and he gave me a lot of pointers on his route. Road closures and closures etc. The week before he was off. I started taking my lunch and breaks and now our times are close.

 

[old levi's]

Those old power-steeringless, power-brakeless, high step narrow door package cars also didn't have rear cameras. How many of these youngsters could even begin to manage without that camera?

No shorts! Shorts were not allowed, even here in CA on 110 degree day.

Pre-load, no labels telling you where to put package and on which truck. You had to memorize every street and all number breaks on your set. Pre-loaders today don't even know what a number break is. Dispatch is somewhat leveled out before preload is run. Old days, who knows? Your set could be buried under 3000 pieces before anyone knew there was a problem.

Truly, it's just different problems now. No harder, no easier, just different. I as an old vet never had a problem helping a young guy, providing they were willing to listen. Problem is, many of them think they have it all figured out 1 year in.

automatically raising your right hand to hit the stop counter whenever you exited the back of the truck...

 

[Hethatbeking]

The 9.5 lists and 8 hour days helps keep you younger guys working. If you want to run like an idiot and skip yourn lunch that's all on you.

Worker smarter not harder.

I do, but remember education is key. I've worked with guys who been drivers for over two years and haven't even received the master agreement much less know the language that protects them from excessive overtime. Now I don't think it's the responsibility of the rank and file to educate each and every new employee, but it would help improve and strengthen communication between us and help us all push back against management's worst tendencies.

 

[Lol working Mondays!]

I concur.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Young guys bitch about long hours and then Old guys bitch at them for bitching because when they were younger they had worse working conditions.

Then those same old guys bitch at the younger guys for not getting involved in the Union and protesting/being active in demanding better working conditions.

Not saying it's me, just an observation.....either help the younger generation or don't. But don't bite the hand that's going to be responsible for the future if this company. Just my two cents.

so you are saying there is a culture of whining within the UPS Driver ranks?

 

[542thruNthru]

I do, but remember education is key. I've worked with guys who been drivers for over two years and haven't even received the master agreement much less know the language that protects them from excessive overtime. Now I don't think it's the responsibility of the rank and file to educate each and every new employee, but it would help improve and strengthen communication between us and help us all push back against management's worst tendencies.

It's called a brotherhood for a reason. Brothers look out for each other and help each other. I'm not saying we have to pull the new guy aside right away but I believe you should educated each other when ever possible.

So I agree with you. It does make us stronger and I wish more teamsters would do it.

 

[542thruNthru]

so you are saying there is a culture of whining within the UPS Driver ranks?

 

[Lol working Mondays!]

We need to stick together!

 

[Brohn Bron]

Well that almost never happens. I have never seen a young guy staffed on a route for an entire week. And they also can't big a route for a week.

Young guys are usually cover drivers. Bid on vacation routes. That’s how you get staffed onto a route for the entire week. Go over 9.5 for 3 days, file grievance.