Did Amazon Always Have These or Is This New??

[jaker]

UPS has wanted to transition to more of a logistics and technology company for several years. Forgetting that small package is what used to define what UPS meant. Some at the top would probably like to dump package delivery if it was possible because there is a smaller return on investment there.

And now you see why Orion is so important , I don't think it's about saving miles it's about creating a program that you can sell to everyone else

We are the beta testers for Orion and when they work out the bugs we will see what happens

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

I wouldn't say ups makes a killin at all. Our profit margin hovers around 10%. That's not a killin.

Only the greedy would consider profits in the millions unacceptable. And that's who we work for.

 

[Faceplanted]

Another great thing to think about is the recent bids the post office was looking at for their new delivery vehicles. All of the vehicles are going to be much larger then the current usps chopped s10 framed mail vans and are all around the size of a p8 package car. USPS is expecting to deliver much much more package work in the future. If you guys can't see the future your blind.

 

[Browndriver5]

Another great thing to think about is the recent bids the post office was looking at for their new delivery vehicles. All of the vehicles are going to be much larger then the current usps chopped s10 framed mail vans and are all around the size of a p8 package car. USPS is expecting to deliver much much more package work in the future. If you guys can't see the future your blind.

What's the future that two companies who operate in the negative are going to overtake two companies that operate in the positive?

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

Another great thing to think about is the recent bids the post office was looking at for their new delivery vehicles. All of the vehicles are going to be much larger then the current usps chopped s10 framed mail vans and are all around the size of a p8 package car. USPS is expecting to deliver much much more package work in the future. If you guys can't see the future your blind.

UPS (and FedEx) should really be pushing Congress to level the playing field. If the USPS is going to be concentrating on package then all of the special treatment they get by the government should be dropped. Private companies should never have to compete with government entities anyway. But if so then it at least should be on a level playing field.

 

[Faceplanted]

USPS hasn't been in the negative for a while and all that was due to pension contributions because they don't Ponzi scheme their pensions like ups does.

USPS is not close to the usps of 3 years ago. They are morphing into an entity that can make tons of profit in the next few years.

And Amazon doesn't care about profit.... You guys keep bringing up their numbers and Amazon is one company that profit is really irrelevant. I'm sure everybody will say otherwise but they haven't made much profit in their whole life span yet they have grown exponentially.

 

[Browndriver5]

USPS hasn't been in the negative for a while and all that was due to pension contributions because they don't Ponzi scheme their pensions like ups does.

USPS is not close to the usps of 3 years ago. They are morphing into an entity that can make tons of profit in the next few years.

And Amazon doesn't care about profit.... You guys keep bringing up their numbers and Amazon is one company that profit is really irrelevant. I'm sure everybody will say otherwise but they haven't made much profit in their whole life span yet they have grown exponentially.

USPS has lost money for 9 straight years bro

http://m.govexec.com/management/201.../123682/?oref=ge-iphone-interstitial-continue

 

[Browndriver5]

Both USPS and Amazon will do fine as long as the ecconomy is doing well. It's like the person who has all the nice new toys but is in debt. When he loses his job he doesn't seem so wealthy compared to the conservative who has less nicer things but money in the bank and everything paid off. Amazon can't continue to break even it will come back to bite them in the ass

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

USPS has lost money for 9 straight years bro

http://m.govexec.com/management/201.../123682/?oref=ge-iphone-interstitial-continue

Another interesting take on the USPS.

https://reason.com/archives/2013/04/17/america-doesnt-need-a-government-run-pos

 

[TUT]

Another great thing to think about is the recent bids the post office was looking at for their new delivery vehicles. All of the vehicles are going to be much larger then the current usps chopped s10 framed mail vans and are all around the size of a p8 package car. USPS is expecting to deliver much much more package work in the future. If you guys can't see the future your blind.

To be honest that could be one thing voting Republican may affect. That said, I wouldn't change parties over an issue like that, some would though. I'm sure the Repubs want the commercial companies to thrive vs a gov't one.

 

[wayfair]

Make it a separate entity. File for Chapter 11. Gut it, set up a new corporation to buy the old assets and reestablish Union free.

you'd think they would have thought about that in 2003

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

To be honest that could be one thing voting Republican may affect. That said, I wouldn't change parties over an issue like that, some would though. I'm sure the Repubs want the commercial companies to thrive vs a gov't one.

Government entities are typically counter productive and worry little about efficiency and profit.

 

[Browndriver5]

If Hillary Clinton becomes president it won't really matter. lol

 

[3 done 3 to go]

If Hillary Clinton becomes president it won't really matter. lol

I can't see how this can happen. Too many issues. Sanders maybe just as bad

 

[Browndriver5]

I can't see how this can happen. Too many issues. Sanders maybe just as bad

Sanders is off his damn rocker

 

[Faceplanted]

The party's are just a face of big corporation. Don't be silly and think who you vote for will change anything. These people are only on the ballot because big corporation chose them. To think who you vote for can sway anything in this new day we live in is ignorant. Republican, democrats, it doesn't matter, the big corporations will keep finding ways to get richer while keeping us distracted, eroding the middle class and getting us dependent on hand outs.

 

[Wally]

Put this on the side of the truck:

 

[beentheredonethat]

Only the greedy would consider profits in the millions unacceptable. And that's who we work for.

Let's assume for a second your are 100% right. Anything past 10 Million is unacceptable. To me, 10 million is a lot of money. So if you start a company up and have sales of a million and a profit margin of 10% and make a profit of $100,000. The company grows to sales of a 10 million and with the same profit margin you are making 1 million in profit. Finally you get to 100 million in sales and profit is now 10 million using the same 10% profit margin. At that point, do you stop growing the company? Or do you grow the company to 1 billion in sales and now only have a 1% profit margin to make that same 10 Million dollars? If you say don't grow beyond 100 million in sales. You will never ever see any large companies in the US and that means the small companies won't have the same purchasing power so we will all be paying more. No Walmart, Amazon, Costco, Target, UPS, FDX, Chipolte, McDonalds, Inbev-Anhueser Busch, Miller Brewing etc etc.

If you grow the company to billions in sales but have only a 1% profit margin by capping profit at 10 Million, then what happens if there is a downturn? It won't take much for you to go from a 1% profit to a 10% loss.

Saying an arbirtrary number of x million dollars is too much for a company doesn't really make sense.

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

Let's assume for a second your are 100% right. Anything past 10 Million is unacceptable. To me, 10 million is a lot of money. So if you start a company up and have sales of a million and a profit margin of 10% and make a profit of $100,000. The company grows to sales of a 10 million and with the same profit margin you are making 1 million in profit. Finally you get to 100 million in sales and profit is now 10 million using the same 10% profit margin. At that point, do you stop growing the company? Or do you grow the company to 1 billion in sales and now only have a 1% profit margin to make that same 10 Million dollars? If you say don't grow beyond 100 million in sales. You will never ever see any large companies in the US and that means the small companies won't have the same purchasing power so we will all be paying more. No Walmart, Amazon, Costco, Target, UPS, FDX, Chipolte, McDonalds, Inbev-Anhueser Busch, Miller Brewing etc etc.

If you grow the company to billions in sales but have only a 1% profit margin by capping profit at 10 Million, then what happens if there is a downturn? It won't take much for you to go from a 1% profit to a 10% loss.

Saying an arbirtrary number of x million dollars is too much for a company doesn't really make sense.

What happens in a downturn? They really wish they hadn't wasted millions on United Way, political contributions, and other wasteful spending such as ORION.

 

[Dracula]

FedEx Ground's transit times are often better than ours. So that isn't a good argument. And even if you factor in the final delivery portion of it, they will be doing it cheaper than if they gave it to us or FedEx.

The transit times are the same, unless UPS puts something on the rail. Our mileage and sleeper routes run the on the same highways as Fed-Ex. For peak this year, UPS choose to cut sleeper teams and put those loads on the rail to go cheap, even though they knew it was slower. Since the delivery guarantee is off during peak, they choose the cheap side.