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10 point
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It can be used to build a case without divulging the source.
You can take illegally collected info and use it to ask "others" hypothetical or leading questions to extract info that is admissable.
It's like illegally gotten info in pro football using a surveillance microphone to listen to the other team's talk.
It happens.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
What ??
Huh ??
Why put yourself in that position ?
Management people.... aren't that smart, anyway.
-Bug-
10 point
Well-Known Member
They get help from time to time.What ??
What?
Huh ??
No?
Why put yourself in that position ?
Not planning on that.
Management people.... aren't that smart, anyway.
-Bug-
Bubblehead
My Senior Picture
It was.
I was missing you guys.
Besides, I doubt the electronics in the room would be of any help.
Atta boy, hang with it.
10 point
Well-Known Member
Not far off. About a yr ago?
Jan 5th?
Wait a dog gone minute there partner...you'll shut down the whole site requiring factual posts.
olroadbeech
Happy Verified UPSer
maybe members are afraid to be too specific as they may be found out by the boss. but we can not really help them with advice if they are too vague.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Some members can be "unwitting" participants, in there own discipline.
Most members.... are afraid of their own shadow.
(and why they won't even go to a Union meeting)
They have been beaten in to submission, by the company.
But, a lot of it is "self-induced".
Meaning.... Why tell the company (and co-workers) about;
Your lifestyle.
Your mortgage.
Your 2 car payments.
Your boat payment.
Your child support.
Your alimony.... Et cetera.
How many drivers spill their guts, when a supervisor is on-car for a day ?
They have no interest in your personal life.
Other than, trying to manipulate it. (in the future)
-Bug-
olroadbeech
Happy Verified UPSer
25 years with the company and they never knew i was married, nor how many kids. always changed the subject when it became personal on ride alongs.
"oh, you don't want to talk about your outside life?"
"no, it is none of your business."
i always understood that my arrangement with the company was strickly business. and you are right , the company could use personal info against you.
people have a short memory. when the strike in 97 was looming, don't people remember managers asking drivers about their financial info? they were asking "how long can you hold out if there is a strike?"
a few dummies said " not very long." but our head steward got wind of the questioning and passed the word around to tell bosses "as long as it takes".
they got tired of asking after they heard that answer several dozen times.
so yes, they do want to know about your personal life.
"oh, you don't want to talk about your outside life?"
"no, it is none of your business."
i always understood that my arrangement with the company was strickly business. and you are right , the company could use personal info against you.
people have a short memory. when the strike in 97 was looming, don't people remember managers asking drivers about their financial info? they were asking "how long can you hold out if there is a strike?"
a few dummies said " not very long." but our head steward got wind of the questioning and passed the word around to tell bosses "as long as it takes".
they got tired of asking after they heard that answer several dozen times.
so yes, they do want to know about your personal life.
35years
Gravy route
I remember managers asking those questions. It was obvious they were told to do so.
I told them the truth...
I have done the math and I could last about 5 years before I would have to look for other employment, but the Union already has a job lined up for me with a competitor for the duration of the strike, if I want it.
I never discuss my personal life or details about my route or employment/discipline history during a ride along.
Better to leave them in the dark.
oldandcrabby
Well-Known Member
What ??
Huh ??
Why put yourself in that position ?
Management people.... aren't that smart, anyway.
-Bug-
Thank you to all union and BA's on BC that helped me out on this!
Hey I just wanted to say I appreciate the BA that I have had dealings with as a wife of a PC driver. We have a friend whose daughter is a senior in HS looking for scholarships for college. Long story short her grandfather is retired teamster got my information from BA posting on BC that there is scholarship money available through teamsters including grandchildren so call husbands BA and within 3 days had the paperwork and requirements for scholarships in the mail and turned over to granddaughter of retired teamster. Thank you to the BA and union stewards that post this stuff on BC.
Happy Holidays and kudos to you all.
olroadbeech
Happy Verified UPSer
are you romantically involved or something?
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
The Steward an On Car in my building are good friends. It's actually pretty funny. They'll come in and go back and forth on an issue. No yelling, but stern conversation back and forth. Then when the discussion is over they'll start talking about the deer they shot over the weekend or if one could help the other with a project.
Kind of makes you go huh? sometimes.
Bubblehead
My Senior Picture
Now it's all starting to make sense.
You work in Mayberry with Dave and have no idea what goes on in the real world.
I'm envious.
ski or die
Ski or Die
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
I'm fine being in this world trust me. We have our problems, but they can usually be talked out and solved. They offered me a position back home, but I turned it down because I knew I wouldn't be in an atmosphere similar to this.
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