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[vantexan]

You’re a ‘tool’ because you’re so upset about ‘welfare’, but you ignore the corporate and military wefare which dwarfs social service spending by a factor of 10k.

Like I said, do some basic research and come to your own conclusions.

Apparently you have reading comprehension issues. I have no problem with a safety net for people in need. As long as it doesn't become a lifestyle. People need to support themselves. And I don't have a problem with low income families getting assistance to feed kids. And I very much want the military to be responsible. No cost overruns to pad profits. If a military parade is going to cost a lot of money then no parade. We have to do a better job at every level of government controlling costs. The one city that did well economically under the last administration was Washington. We don't need that many highly paid bureaucrats. Cut out the waste, fraud, and abuse and it's ridiculous to say it'll cost more to do that than the actual problem.

 

[BrownArmy]

Apparently you have reading comprehension issues. I have no problem with a safety net for people in need. As long as it doesn't become a lifestyle. People need to support themselves. And I don't have a problem with low income families getting assistance to feed kids. And I very much want the military to be responsible. No cost overruns to pad profits. If a military parade is going to cost a lot of money then no parade. We have to do a better job at every level of government controlling costs. The one city that did well economically under the last administration was Washington. We don't need that many highly paid bureaucrats. Cut out the waste, fraud, and abuse and it's ridiculous to say it'll cost more to do that than the actual problem.

Glad we agree, then.

Here's a new band for you: QUICKSAND

 

[floridays]

You’re a ‘tool’ because you’re so upset about ‘welfare’, but you ignore the corporate and military welfare which dwarfs social service spending by a factor of 10k.

Like I said, do some basic research and come to your own conclusions.

When was the last time a social service recipient pulled a wounded brother out of a combat zone? And I will not accept a drug ridden, crime infested intercity or rural america gun fight as a legitimate rebuttal. If there is going to be waste, I accept it more easily when related to the men and women that put their lives and their families dreams in jeopardy for thankful and unappreciative Americans. I will note that military members do qualify and receive food stamps, which is unacceptable to me. These men and women should be paid more, so they wouldn't qualify before one dime is paid to any recipient of social services. One question, do you know any one personally that has given his or her life in a combat zone? I don't mean do you know the name of someone. Do you know any fallen and their immediate family members. I think not.

 

[vantexan]

When was the last time a social service recipient pulled a wounded brother out of a combat zone? And I will not accept a drug ridden, crime infested intercity or rural america gun fight as a legitimate rebuttal. If there is going to be waste, I accept it more easily when related to the men and women that put their lives and their families dreams in jeopardy for thankful and unappreciative Americans. I will note that military members do qualify and receive food stamps, which is unacceptable to me. These men and women should be paid more, so they wouldn't qualify before one dime is paid to any recipient of social services. One question, do you know any one personally that has given his or her life in a combat zone? I don't mean do you know the name of someone. Do you know any fallen and their immediate family members. I think not.

When I think of military waste I think of vendors charging much more than they should, obtaining weapons systems that aren't needed, etc. Taking care of armed services personnel should always be a top priority, as well as taking care of veterans.

 

[floridays]

Apparently you have reading comprehension issues. I have no problem with a safety net for people in need. As long as it doesn't become a lifestyle. People need to support themselves. And I don't have a problem with low income families getting assistance to feed kids. And I very much want the military to be responsible. No cost overruns to pad profits. If a military parade is going to cost a lot of money then no parade. We have to do a better job at every level of government controlling costs. The one city that did well economically under the last administration was Washington. We don't need that many highly paid bureaucrats. Cut out the waste, fraud, and abuse and it's ridiculous to say it'll cost more to do that than the actual problem.

BS to part of it Van, have the parade, every year, a military appreciation day. You take that segment of American's away and we cease to exist. I'll go one further, I think Congress should pass a law and President Trump should sign it saying absolutely no enlisted serviceman shall be required to pay one dime of Federal income tax.

 

[vantexan]

BS to part of it Van, have the parade, every year, a military appreciation day. You take that segment of American's away and we cease to exist. I'll go one further, I think Congress should pass a law and President Trump should sign it saying absolutely no enlisted serviceman shall be required to pay one dime of Federal income tax.

We've never really had a parade like they're contemplating in Washington. If it costs serious money we can do without it. At some point we've got to give in on what we like no matter what side of the fence we're on. Everyone thinks this or that is chump change but it adds up. If we don't get our act together 2008 will be like child's play compared to what will come.

 

[floridays]

When I think of military waste I think of vendors charging much more than they should, obtaining weapons systems that aren't needed, etc. Taking care of armed services personnel should always be a top priority, as well as taking care of veterans.

I already knew your position on that, but I personally refuse to give these clowns one inch in my thinking. You know the old saying. I don't like business screwing the Pentagon and inflating the military budget anymore than you. I can think of some horrible penalties for legislators and career military politicians that would begin to think of doing such.

 

[vantexan]

I already knew your position on that, but I personally refuse to give these clowns one inch in my thinking. You know the old saying. I don't like business screwing the Pentagon and inflating the military budget anymore than you. I can think of some horrible penalties for legislators and career military politicians that would begin to think of doing such.

Unfortunately to hear the other side the only thing wrong with government spending is the spending on the military. They hate the military because they don't see the necessity of it. Anyone that uses the military to bilk the government just gives them ammunition so yeah let's go after every last one who takes advantage.

 

[floridays]

We've never really had a parade like they're contemplating in Washington. If it costs serious money we can do without it. At some point we've got to give in on what we like no matter what side of the fence we're on. Everyone thinks this or that is chump change but it adds up. If we don't get our act together 2008 will be like child's play compared to what will come.

It's already lost Van. Sad but true.

 

[brownmonster]

As always when a liberal has no argument he resorts to personal attacks. What exactly about wanting responsible government in every department makes me a "tool?"

The current president is a liberal?

 

[vantexan]

The current president is a liberal?

Judging by the latest spending bill....

 

[floridays]

Judging by the latest spending bill....

Agree, he caved but he didn't if you understand my meaning. The repukes have lied again.

 

[brownmonster]

Judging by the latest spending bill....

Cut income and increase spending. Sounds fiscally conservative.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Judging by the latest spending bill....

You're learning.
Good Jane.
Good.

 

[bbsam]

BS to part of it Van, have the parade, every year, a military appreciation day. You take that segment of American's away and we cease to exist. I'll go one further, I think Congress should pass a law and President Trump should sign it saying absolutely no enlisted serviceman shall be required to pay one dime of Federal income tax.

If you want to appreciate the military and get others to appreciate the military more, simply institute the draft with near zero deferrals.

 

[bbsam]

Agree, he caved but he didn't if you understand my meaning. The repukes have lied again.

That’s ok. They’ll still get your vote.

 

[bbsam]

I already knew your position on that, but I personally refuse to give these clowns one inch in my thinking. You know the old saying. I don't like business screwing the Pentagon and inflating the military budget anymore than you. I can think of some horrible penalties for legislators and career military politicians that would begin to think of doing such.

We have seen no evidence that you have ever given us “one inch of [your] thinking.” (Or any thinking whatsoever for that matter.)

 

[floridays]

The current president is a liberal?

Yes on some things, kinda Jeckyll and Hyde

If you want to appreciate the military and get others to appreciate the military more, simply institute the draft with near zero deferrals.

I don't want to appreciate the military, I already do. I come from a military family. That is a BS response, I personally don't want anyone in the military that doesn't choose to be there. There is already to much social engineering in the armed forces from the people who joined for just that reason. I don't want a military constituted of degenerates. I think you are the person I told I was glad you didn't serve with anyone I know that has service on their resume. If it wasn't you I apologize.

 

[floridays]

That’s ok. They’ll still get your vote.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

 

[floridays]

We have seen no evidence that you have ever given us “one inch of [your] thinking.” (Or any thinking whatsoever for that matter.)

I kick your backside all over this place. I'm very open with my thoughts. I'm thoroughly persuaded everyone that has read what I have written knows exactly what my point of view is and has made their opinions of them either verbally or in their own minds. Your very weak this morning Sam.