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[DriveInDriveOut]

Reports are coming in that Obama's Administration Officials are still meeting with foreign countries' contacts telling them to sit tight and wait out Trump's departure. Then business will return to normal.

Don't we have laws against this type of behavior ?

Gitmo should have a special section for US Traitors.

"Reports"
lulz

 

[vantexan]

I think he meant that as a propaganda arm of the state, Chinese media won't be covering it.

They certainly aren't. But reports are coming out of some provinces that millions of pigs have died. And suddenly they've stepped up pork purchases here. If you want to see what goes on behind the scenes follow the futures markets. Mullahs in some governments will rail against us. Meanwhile they're buying large amounts of wheat from us.

 

[Jkloc420]

They certainly aren't. But reports are coming out of some provinces that millions of pigs have died. And suddenly they've stepped up pork purchases here. If you want to see what goes on behind the scenes follow the futures markets. Mullahs in some governments will rail against us. Meanwhile they're buying large amounts of wheat from us.

liberals love the chinese now

 

[Non sequitur]

The Iranians should raise swine for the Chinese. Lol

 

[BrownArmy]

China has ‘strategic reserves’ of pork.

Literally, no joke.

Can’t let the pork run out...

 

[newfie]

You're still not getting it. China is still a one party communist nation with a so called "president" who will be in office for as long as he wants to be in office. In China there is no such thing as political dissent. The media is still state controlled and they sure as hell are not going to worry about pig fever. And as long as there is no such thing as political dissent they will be no pressure to make a deal on Trump's terms. They'll just sit there across the table and smile and whatever agreement if any is reached it will likely be more symbolism that substance and it's terms will not likely be much different that TPP.
Chances are it will be something like the much hyped USMCA. Not whole lot different than the treaty it replaced.
For example the US share of the Canadian milk market will grow from 3.25% to 3.59% . Big deal. All it will mean is that a few additional tanker loads of milk will go over the border.

Yeah, you might see a deal reached but the devil is in the details and the only thing actually harvested is more political timber.
BTW. Trump's embargo of Iran oil which promises sanctions against those nation's that don't comply? Day before yesterday an Chinese oil tanker (state owned) pulls up to an Iranian oil depot and loaded up ....See just how seriously the take Trump?

So are you saying were in for a tough fight or we should be afraid of China?

 

[vantexan]

China has ‘strategic reserves’ of pork.

Literally, no joke.

Can’t let the pork run out...

Yes, and it's a known fact that viruses refuse to infect the strategic reserves.

 

[BrownArmy]

Yes, and it's a known fact that viruses refuse to infect the strategic reserves.

Guy, they only put uninfected pork in the reserve, duh.

 

[vantexan]

Guy, they only put uninfected pork in the reserve, duh.

It was all uninfected at some point. Where is the Chinese Pig Reserve located?

 

[BrownArmy]

It was all uninfected at some point. Where is the Chinese Pig Reserve located?

The Chinese government subcontracts out jobs to slaughterhouses...

They pay storage fees for slaughterhouses to keep pork in freezers.

There was a hiccup this year though, the Chinese government wasn’t offering enough money, so not enough slaughterhouses signed up.

They’ll just have to offer more money.

Capitalism at its finest.

 

[vantexan]

The Chinese government subcontracts out jobs to slaughterhouses...

They pay storage fees for slaughterhouses to keep pork in freezers.

There was a hiccup this year though, the Chinese government wasn’t offering enough money, so not enough slaughterhouses signed up.

They’ll just have to offer more money.

Capitalism at its finest.

Meanwhile huge herds are getting decimated by disease, and it's spreading. Good for our pork industry.

 

[It will be fine]

Meanwhile huge herds are getting decimated by disease, and it's spreading. Good for our pork industry.

Yay! We can kill more animals that are smarter than dogs! Happy days are here again!

 

[Jkloc420]

Yay! We can kill more animals that are smarter than dogs! Happy days are here again!

what would happen if we did not kill them and everyone became vegetarians

 

[Old Man Jingles]

So don’t do business in China. You big government types are all the same.

Please give a little more thought to your responses ... you are becoming boring.

 

[vantexan]

Yay! We can kill more animals that are smarter than dogs! Happy days are here again!

Take it up with the Chinese.

 

[vantexan]

what would happen if we did not kill them and everyone became vegetarians

Tomatoes would cost $8 a pound.

 

[Jkloc420]

Tomatoes would cost $8 a pound.

tomatoes r going up anyways, we raised the tariff on that to

 

[Old Man Jingles]

How? that's the question I'm asking you along with the question of what is the end game and how do we get there? The American economy which you are always bragging about while strong is fragile . Moreover the Chinese government has made it quite clear that they will wait us out for as long as it takes. Not only is it part of their culture the lessons of Vietnam are fresh in their minds. Vietnamese government officials said after kicking us out that they were surprised that we quit in 1975 because they were fully prepared and equipped to go on fighting to as late as 2000. We see things in terms of a 4 year election cycle . They see things in terms of generations if not centuries .

I remember that very discussion in my history class back in the 70’s.
My teacher was saying back then that the Chinese were the most serious competitor the USA had because of their attitude, resources and people.

 

[oldngray]

I remember that very discussion in my history class back in the 70’s.
My teacher was saying back then that the Chinese were the most serious competitor the USA had because of their attitude, resources and people.

Back then they were using Hong Kong for capitalism purposes in a relatively small way. Now they are embracing capitalism on a widespread basis (under a veneer of socialism).

 

[Old Man Jingles]

They need us a lot more.

For now!
That’s why it is critical trade a adjustments need to be done now.