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newfie

Well-Known Member
You're smart enough to know we still have that.

if you are honest and I know its tough to do so when you want to get your political bash in then you have to admit this country has made significant improvements in its own environment to eliminate the smog filled cities of the 70's and the factories dumping into our rivers during that time.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
We're doing pretty well over here, if you have problems take it up with China, India and the other emerging nations and lagging economies.

and that covers the issue in a nutshell. The US is certainly trending in a positive direction environmentally . the issues are in other countries yet liberals in this country want to bash the US for the problems in other countries. the paris accord would have had us sending our tax dollars to china to incentivize them to clean up. total nonsense
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Pretty easy to clean up when you ship the whole operation to another country. Not so good for real jobs for the common folks.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
You're smart enough to know we still have that.
Most of the plastic in the ocean is coming out of China, Southeast Asia, and one African country. Except for China these are all smaller countries with much less industrial development and yet the U.S. doesn't even make the top 10. I know it's fashionable to hate the U.S. and blame it for all the world's troubles but at some point you have to acknowledge the strides we've made.
 

Nolimitz

Well-Known Member
Most of the plastic in the ocean is coming out of China, Southeast Asia, and one African country. Except for China these are all smaller countries with much less industrial development and yet the U.S. doesn't even make the top 10. I know it's fashionable to hate the U.S. and blame it for all the world's troubles but at some point you have to acknowledge the strides we've made.
and where does China get all that plastic?
Do You Know Where Your Plastic Goes? - Ocean Conservancy
Until recently, the answer was usually China. For years, China had been a leading importer of scrap and recycled materials—particularly scrap plastic—from around the world. In 2016, it imported 7.3 million tons of plastic scrap from developed countries, which accounted for 56% of global imports of these materials. In 2017, CalRecycle estimated that a third of all recyclable materials in California were exported to foreign markets, with 62% going to China at a total vessel value of $5.2 billion. As a rapidly developing economy, China needed inexpensive raw material, such as recyclable plastic and scrap, to feed growth. On the export side, countries had huge incentives to send their waste to China. As an example, it was cheaper for the U.S. to ship scrap materials to China than it was to process them locally.
 
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