dow jones

Next Day Err

Well-Known Member
Nonsense.
We already have a temporary migrant worker program to legally use these unskilled farm migrants seasonally.

You are trying to equate that to tens of millions of illegals invading our country.

It is a very dishonest defense of Democrats' open border policies.
Not nearly enough H-2A worker permits for the work needed to be done.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Not nearly enough H-2A worker permits for the work needed to be done.
Did you know the political party you vote for has been opposed to expanding the program?

It's racist or slavery or some stupid argument like that. They want to give them all citizenship.

It's definitely absolutely not about getting their votes though, SMH.
 
We have to look to slow consumer spending in order to slow demand. Productivity needs to outpace wages in order to check inflation. Jan 1 we had one of our office managers leave us for a 25K raise. Everyone in our offices knows it and our yearly May reviews could be a blood bath.
Consumer spending will not slow until there are consequences for going into unmanageable debt. $1.23T in consumer credit card debt.
 
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vantexan

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They add value to our overall economy. We are all better off for it.

Immigrants don’t “poison the blood” of our country, they refresh it. It’s incumbent on Congress to fix the chaos.
When in the country's history have so many been let in so soon? When in all the years of legal immigration have so many entered unvetted? When have so many criminals been let in? Terrorists? When in the history of legal immigration, at a million a year no less, has the Federal government spent so much supporting them? Saw where Social Security will likely have a 2.5% raise next year. How much is being spent on millions of illegals? How much is going overseas? And just how many American citizens have to be murdered and raped by people who shouldn't be here before Dems start saying there's a problem? Is keeping power, obtaining total power so important that you're willing to wreck countless lives to obtain it?
 

Lineandinitial

Legio patria nostra
They add value to our overall economy. We are all better off for it.
No we'e not. They drain more from our "social welfare" programs than they contribute. Don't ask for numbers, because I don't have to waste my time proving something that everyone already knows to be true.
Immigrants don’t “poison the blood” of our country, they refresh it. It’s incumbent on Congress to fix the chaos.
No they do not, but these people streaming into the US are not "immigrants", they are criminals because what they are doing is illegal. Simple! You can justify it in your own circle of like-minded sympathizers, but the fact remains they are not immigrating, they are ILLEGAL ALIENS as defined. "Asylum seeker, Refugee, etc." status is determined AFTER they enter the legal and normal process to enter the US.
You can play with words all you want, the facts and the law remains intact despite your spin and rhetoric.
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Yeah, that big dip… FJB! Oh wait… he didn’t take office until January 2021.

People left the job force for good during the pandemic and there’s fewer native born to take them. Migrants take jobs that otherwise wouldn’t be taken. Migrants have shored up our economy. We should thank them. They pay local and state taxes and we should get them set up to pay federal taxes and let them work here and keep their noses clean for potential citizenship a decade or more down the line. Just saying.
Take jobs for less. Country club GOP and Dems love that. Outfits can under bid union shops with ease.
 

Sportello

Well-Known Member
Did you know the political party you vote for has been opposed to expanding the program?

It's racist or slavery or some stupid argument like that. They want to give them all citizenship.

It's definitely absolutely not about getting their votes though, SMH.
Not true.

 

Sportello

Well-Known Member
No we'e not. They drain more from our "social welfare" programs than they contribute. Don't ask for numbers, because I don't have to waste my time proving something that everyone already knows to be true.

No they do not, but these people streaming into the US are not "immigrants", they are criminals because what they are doing is illegal. Simple! You can justify it in your own circle of like-minded sympathizers, but the fact remains they are not immigrating, they are ILLEGAL ALIENS as defined. "Asylum seeker, Refugee, etc." status is determined AFTER they enter the legal and normal process to enter the US.
You can play with words all you want, the facts and the law remains intact despite your spin and rhetoric.
Wrong.

 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Yes, they come in through Ports of Entry. Too bad the Republican Party didn’t pass the Republican Senate immigration bill so we could tighten up checks with more resources. This is on the GOP now.
Yeah, right. Biden lets in at least 8 million unvetted, sues border states trying to stop it, comes up with a bill that would still let in up to 5000 a day, and wants to blame Republicans for not going along. Drugs are coming in all through the border. Through the ports of entry only is BS. And the families of the murdered get no sympathy from Democrats. All that matters is getting these people into blue states where they'll make up in the Census for the people moving out so that blue states don't lose their Congressional power. And eventually get citizenship and vote Democratic.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Yes, they come in through Ports of Entry. Too bad the Republican Party didn’t pass the Republican Senate immigration bill so we could tighten up checks with more resources. This is on the GOP now.
That is a blatant lie.
It was not a "Republican" immigration bill, and it did not "tighten up checks with more resources"

The Republican party rejected it, and the one (R) senator who worked with Democrats on that terrible open borders bill was censured by the Republican party.

The bill was simply the Democrats trying to get more money to the border so they could process illegals into the country faster.
 

Lineandinitial

Legio patria nostra
That is a blatant lie.
It was not a "Republican" immigration bill, and it did not "tighten up checks with more resources"

The Republican party rejected it, and the one (R) senator who worked with Democrats on that terrible open borders bill was censured by the Republican party.

The bill was simply the Democrats trying to get more money to the border so they could process illegals into the country faster.
Don’t forget the failed Democrat trick to get $70B to the Nazi-sympathizers in Ukraine.
 
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