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vantexan

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it doesnt matter he supplies them weapons which is a violation of US law and international law.

well thats where youre wrong. historically citizens have supported their empires because they figure its noble.
Since when has supplying weapons to legitimate governments been against international law?
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Since when has supplying weapons to legitimate governments been against international law?
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US laws.
 

Thebrownblob

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Next Day Err

Well-Known Member
You said you're opposed to peace deals with people who have "blown" their chances time and time again.

So you're against the Biden administration's peace deal policies towards Iran and Hamas, right?
We’re talking about peace deals vis-à-vis Ukraine and Russia. Since Ukraine is not a nuclear power and not in NATO and with what we already know about how Putin feels about Ukraine’s right to exist then I think all bets are off with respect to a peace deal that we can trust.

Our policies with our adversaries are different because of the sheer level of fear we tend to engender.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
We’re talking about peace deals vis-à-vis Ukraine and Russia.
Yes and you said you're opposed to a peace deal because Russia has "blown" their chances time and time again.

Yet you're not against the Biden administration's peace deal policies towards Iran and Hamas, despite them doing the same thing...

Explain how your position is not complete and utter hypocrisy.
 

vantexan

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vantexan

Well-Known Member
We’re talking about peace deals vis-à-vis Ukraine and Russia. Since Ukraine is not a nuclear power and not in NATO and with what we already know about how Putin feels about Ukraine’s right to exist then I think all bets are off with respect to a peace deal that we can trust.

Our policies with our adversaries are different because of the sheer level of fear we tend to engender.
Iran fears us so much that we're letting them develop nukes?
 

Next Day Err

Well-Known Member
Yes and you said you're opposed to a peace deal because Russia has "blown" their chances time and time again.
In this case Russia/Ukraine would be making the deal. Big power imbalance. Russia could use the negotiations to regroup and then renege after the deal is done at some point. Putin would stipulate no NATO troops in Ukraine.

Do you not see that Putin is throwing the kitchen sink at Ukraine? It’s obvious he wants it badly enough that he is willing to take the Zap nuke plant hostage and grind up every convict soldier he has to get it. He is not to be trusted.

We can do a peace deal with Russia because mutually assured destruction still applies. Hope that clears things up.
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
I agree if you read the story, it really doesn’t say they only need weapons and ammunition they don’t have enough people… it’s time to look for other options to end this.
Ukraine need to go 100 percent guerilla and never quit. People back in Russian will give up.
 

Next Day Err

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Ukraine need to go 100 percent guerilla and never quit. People back in Russian will give up.
Seriously. Even in the case of a Russian police state in Ukraine I can’t see a situation where the Ukrainians don’t dog the :censored2: out of the Russian military with constant insurgent attacks.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
In this case Russia/Ukraine would be making the deal. Big power imbalance. Russia could use the negotiations to regroup and then renege after the deal is done at some point. Putin would stipulate no NATO troops in Ukraine.

Do you not see that Putin is throwing the kitchen sink at Ukraine? It’s obvious he wants it badly enough that he is willing to take the Zap nuke plant hostage and grind up every convict soldier he has to get it. He is not to be trusted.

We can do a peace deal with Russia because mutually assured destruction still applies. Hope that clears things up.
You said you're opposed to a peace deal because Russia has "blown" their chances time and time again.

But you support peace deals with other countries and groups that have blown their chances like Iran and Hamas.

The reason is because you simply toe the line that the Democrat party tells you to.
 
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