moreluck
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A homewrecker is when a married couple are broken up....like Brad and Jen were Angelina'd
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It hasn't changed !!
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It hasn't changed !!
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
250k sounds about right for the upper end of middle class. Is it a very good living yes does it mean you'll never have to worry about money ever again no. Stuff costs more than it use to and will continue to do so from year to year until the earth explodes.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Sure it does and a big chunk of the 97% of blacks that voted Obama are as guilty of it as anyone.
Buddybrown
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What hate? This person, as I doesn’t care for Obama’s policies, period! Where does this person say that the president doesn’t love his country? We would all get along if you could tell the truth in just responding to a post on the BrownCafe….Seek help my friend!!!
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gotbrown
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I would like someone to state why they love this president. What has he done to deserve your loyalty? Almost everything he says is a lie, he has not fulfilled most of his promises. So instead of "He simply and obviously substitutes rhetoric for reasoning." please seriously convince me he is the better candidate. Without the obvious rhetoric. List his accomplishments maybe, his future picture for us?
The only thing i can see he has done is divide this country like has never been done before except for the civil war, rammed this bloated unconstitutional health care law that is already bankrupting this country (wait for the next four years), Oh and created almost 6 trillion in more debt in 3.5 years more than any other president ever. And best of all his hands off approach to the ever changing world problems is destroying our leverage/stance in the view of the world of being a country to be followed. Instead we are shown as weak and untrustworthy, there for we are opening our selves to attack and being bullied. Not only from Iran and the rest of the Middle East, but worst of all China . look at the growing threat around the world, they hate us and have become more bold to do what they want thinking we will just stand by because that is what this president projects to the world....our weakness...
So please tell me how you see it and change my vote,,
gotbrown
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I cannot believe i spent all that time typing and you went and found a video to do it for you...lol thats better than anything I could type, and makes it easier to understand for those that like the pictures instead of the words... again awesome job!
First and foremost, lets talk about the division you speak of. From 2001 through 2008, this country was split in HALF by GW BUSH with his constant lies about both wars he started. The majority of americans didnt want these wars and suspected BUSH was lying, but the administration forced those wars down our throats.
Everyone knew that these wars (both unpaid and part of the national debt 3.8 trillion combined) would wipe out our economy, but the BUSH administration did it anyways.
This county started protesting against the goverment unlike anything since the 60's to stop the wars. Those who call themselves republicans pushed for a continuation of wars despite its obvious effects on wall street, the price of oil, the cost to GDP, and the cost to the unemployment rate that ultimately shoved us into a recession so deep, it could only be compared to the great depression.
As for President Obama, He ended the war in Iraq and they are on their own to find a way to govern. (money saved vs McCains theory of being there for 100 years) Afghanistan occupation will end in 2014 and whatever happens there happens. We should have never been there in the first place. These wars cost this country HUGE dollars that we cant pay back and ending them is in the best interest of the United States people.
With respect to health care, this isnt something new. Going back to the 90's, healthcare reform has been in front of congress and the senate and they failed to do anything about it.
That failure allowed health care costs to skyrocket every year at rates unheard of in USA history. At the same time, those same insurance companies were denying coverage to MILLIONS of americans every year for pre-existing conditions and in other cases, denying coverage simply because they ommitted something on the insurance application. Insurance
companies had actual committees of doctors to sit and evaluate a persons history just to find something wrong in order to deny coverage. Doctors from those committees testified in from of congress and explained how they were paid a percentage of any claim a patient made if they could find a way to deny coverage.
This action forces MILLIONS of americans into bankruptcy court and many lose homes, cars and property. The ACA gets those people out of the BK courts and that helps all of us as prices for services dont have to rise to cover losses.
You say its UNCONSTITUTIONAL, yet the supreme court ruled and validated the healthcare reform act. If this is the case, why do you say its unconstitutional? The founding fathers MANDATED all maritime employees to purchase health care insurance and then they created the maritime hospital system to cover these employees. This was done under the General Welfare Clause.
So how do you conclude the goverment has no right to mandate insurance?
The ACA has so many benefits for all americans, and this is something that must be done so healthcare prices are controlled and prevented from skyrocketing. The industry has operated at a 400% profit margin and that margin will be reduced and that reduction will help americans get the care they need.
As far as the troops are concerned, BUSH CUT benefits for the VA system because his deficits were SKYHIGH and the result was that we saw soldiers coming home and living in their cars, homeless, broke, injured and without help and their credit ratings destroyed. Most lost their jobs and no one wanted to hire one.
OBAMA has passed into law, the MILITARY DEBT RELIEF ACT, something that benefits ALL VETS when they return from a combat zone. He INCREASED spending for the VA SYSTEM building new facilities to care for those most needy from injuries. Under BUSH, military suicides were at record levels every month, and under OBAMA, with better care, that number is starting to come down.
With the economy, OBAMA had to take control of an airliner that was heading straight DOWN in a death dive, as BUSH was losing 750 thousand jobs a month starting in 2007 and continuing into 2009. 4.7 million jobs alone in 2008 were lost before OBAMA even sat at his desk.
Working with the fed, and economists, things had to be done. First, saving the banking industry was the priority. IF the large banks had failed, all the banks in the country would have tanked and we all would have been screwed. wall street collapsed under BUSH and over 3 trillion dollars in value was lost. Since then, OBAMAs policies have increased wall street by 100 percent and corporations are more profitable than ever in history.
The stimulus program that was passed also was an important part of our recovery ( romney also believes and supported this) this stimulus was constructed in thirds. The first part were tax cuts for those making under 250K. (thats you and me) The other third was used for highway projects , bridges, roads and freeway expansions and MY STATE recieved a large portion of that money.
The last third is still sitting in the treasury and hasnt been spent yet.
ON the housing market, OBAMA has created HARP programs that have helped tons of home owners to stay in homes. It isnt perfect, but it stopped the nose dive in the housing market and its turning around now. A new harp program is coming out shortly to help those homeowners who have privately held mortgages ( not fannie or freddie ) and that should further help the industry turn around. This program is for home owners who have made all their payments on time, never late and with good credit.
President Obama has attempted to restart our manufacturing industry by saving what we have left, and creating new industries. ( wind , solar ) These industries are creating jobs all across the nation. Solar here in california is going like gangbusters and companies are starting up everywhere. There is greater demand then there are service providers.
This is something all americans should embrace. We have to get away from being dependent on China for american goods made there.
President Obama has taken the lead on the war on terror, killing ALL the top leaders of AL Qaeda and using our military with greater precision and limiting service members lives.
Remember, in 2008, OBAMA said he was going into pakistan to find Usama Bin Laden, and the Entire GOP said he was NUTS, but thats what he did and he got him. That alone deserves the utmost respect.
BUSH himself said he didnt know where Usama was, nor was he thinking about him. BUSH hadnt the first clue where he was and the GOP would not go into pakistan calling them an ally. OBAMA was bold enough, brave enough and stong enough to make a decision to infiltrate a soverign country and capture and killing the number 1 terrorist in the world.
The GOP would rather send your children into two countries that had nothing to do with 9/11 and have them killed or maimed and then say that they are a part of the 47% that pay no taxes and they are freeloaders.
Does that insult you?
President Obama can only do what he can and its the house of representatives who really control what happens in the country. If they dont pass his bills, we stay where we are. The congress has voted on 33 bills to attempt to kill heathcare knowing full well they wouldnt pass the senate or get the presidents signature. All that did was waste time and the nations business can never be done.
The house since Boehner took control, has only kicked the can down the road with temporary spending bills hoping to kick it to 2013 when they hope to get a new president, and then you will see what kind of damage the republicans are willing to do to the american public, and that means YOU.
If you believe that Romney offers you something that will help you, then you are in for a big surprise. His tax cuts for the rich will punch a 4.75 trillion dollar hole in the deficit and to make up that deficit, he is willing to RAISE YOUR TAXES TO GET IT BACK.
Unfortunately, he wont tell you that, and all he will say, is to wait until after the election and congress will determine how to make up that 4.75 trillion dollar deficit at your expense.
This alone should be enough for you to NOT VOTE for Romney. This will affect you DIRECTLY. Mortgage deduction credit will be eliminated, Child deduction credits eliminated, College Tuition deductions eliminated, home repairs for rentals eliminated, sales tax deduction eliminated, car registration deductions eliminated, write offs for business deductions eliminated.
If any of that affect YOU, then you need to reconsider what you are doing to yourself.
Obamas direction is simple. Gain control of the economy ( check ) it isnt plummeting anymore. GGP has been positive since the stimulus was enacted vs negative for the last two years of BUSH. Obama will end the war in afghanistan and that will save money and lives. Obama will use our military more precisely in the future and that will save money and reduce the need for boots on the ground.
What needs to happen, is for the house and senate to go back to the democrats, and that alone will allow all the policies to be implemented and if they all fail, then the country can vote them all out in 2016 and start something new. Until then, with the house held captive by the GOP and the senate short of 60 votes, WE the people pay for the politics and WE are the ones who have to suffer.
Hope this helps.
Peace
TOS
TechGrrl
Space Cadet
This president inherited the biggest economic mess since the great depression. On the night of his inauguration, the Republican establishment held a meeting to start planning how to block his every move. Mitch McConnell has overseen the largest number of filibusters in the history of the United States.
In March of 2009, the stock market bottomed out at around 6500. Just checked the Dow, it's at 13,618. The Fortune 500 is sitting on 2 trillion dollars in cash that they have no intention of putting back into the economy. Income inequality is at the highest since the Gilded Age. Middle class wages have been flat or declining since Ronald Reagan, while worker productivity is at an all time high. The people who do the work are not sharing in the fruits of their labor.
In every state where the GOP took over in 2010, workers' rights are under attack (not just public sector unions; Right to Freeload legislation aimed at private sector unions as well.); women's health and welfare is under attack, and business cronies are rewarded with tax cuts and other breaks.
We are well on our way to a plutocracy. All the wealth that has been created in the last 30 years has basically been sucked upward to the 1%. The Democratic Party is beholden to big money almost as much as the GOP, but they at least try to maintain environmental standards and some protections for working people.
From his first year in office, when he ordered the SEALS to kill the Somali pirates holding hostages, to the raid on Osama Bin Laden, to a sensible redirection of our military approach to the war on terrorists, this President has engaged in a robust foreign policy, the lies of the right wing notwithstanding.
I cast my first vote as an adult for Richard Nixon. I was a loyal Republican voter until the party was hijacked by the Christian Dominionists and the flat out crazies like Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann. Those people flat out scare me.
Is President Obama perfect? No. Is the Democratic Party perfect? No. But I have eyes to see and a brain to evaluate, and when I look at what the GOP has DONE, not talked about, DONE in states where they have taken over lock, stock, and barrel, they scare me.
Mitt Romney is the BEST candidate the GOP could dredge up this year, and he is hopeless.
So, THAT is why I am voting for President Obama in 7 weeks.
M
MenInBrown
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Actually the courier that lead them to Bin Laden was found in 2004...cant remember who was the president but I dont think it was Obama, and also waterboarding is what got the couriers name...something Obama despized.
Could you kindly show us where this claim is true.. and please dont site a talking head on fox news, Rush Limbaugh or Sean hannity.
Show us something tangible that demonstrates this case.
Peace
TOS
Necropostophiliac
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Voter watchdog says it's uncovered absentee ballot fraud in Florida, New York
A national voter fraud watchdog group announced Tuesday that it has uncovered at least 31 cases of absentee
ballot fraud in New York and Florida -- a finding the group claims is "just the tip of the iceberg."
True the Vote, a group that focuses on voter fraud, said it turned over 31 cases to state and federal election
authorities in which individuals cast their votes in two states in the same federal election -- which is a felony.
Logan Churchwell, a spokesman for the group, told FoxNews.com that the organization accessed Florida's
complete voter registration roll and cross-referenced it against 10 percent of New York's list.
It identified more than 1,700 people with voter registrations in both states. Of that number, 31 people
allegedly voted in both states during the same federal election cycle.
Read more: Voter watchdog says it's uncovered absentee ballot fraud in Florida, New York | Fox News
A national voter fraud watchdog group announced Tuesday that it has uncovered at least 31 cases of absentee
ballot fraud in New York and Florida -- a finding the group claims is "just the tip of the iceberg."
True the Vote, a group that focuses on voter fraud, said it turned over 31 cases to state and federal election
authorities in which individuals cast their votes in two states in the same federal election -- which is a felony.
Logan Churchwell, a spokesman for the group, told FoxNews.com that the organization accessed Florida's
complete voter registration roll and cross-referenced it against 10 percent of New York's list.
It identified more than 1,700 people with voter registrations in both states. Of that number, 31 people
allegedly voted in both states during the same federal election cycle.
Read more: Voter watchdog says it's uncovered absentee ballot fraud in Florida, New York | Fox News
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