floridays
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Elon Musk Exposes the Hatred of Free Speech
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I've always believed the true litmus test of someone's erroneous beliefs is that, instead of defending and explaining their faith, they attack others'. That suggests more the work of Satan than the Holy Spirit.
BrownFlush
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If defending what you believe and backing it with scripture is defined by you as an attack, have at it.
Asking one to respond to my counter response must be too much, also.
Looking at the exchanges, I think @floridays & @BigGuy2732 when your attack award.
I think it was Paul who was viewed as the enemy for speaking the truth.
BrownFlush
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BigGuy2732
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Protestants whole existence is rebellion. That’s why they exist. They hate the Catholic faith for what they perceive it to be.
floridays
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Abraham did as well.
And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness
“Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.”
BrownFlush
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Unresponsive
You said nothing to above.
There were no Christians until Pentecost after the first gospel sermon was preached by Peter when 3000 Jews believed, repented and were baptized for the remission of their sins. (V38)
Those that obeyed the gospel and were followers of Christ were first called Christians in Antioch Acts 11:26
BrownFlush
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I hate it for what it actually is.
floridays
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To be redeemed, before and after the cross will you agree the only constant is believing or trusting God?
In the old testament the Law was the judge, Abraham did not keep the law, he was a sinner.
Is that a correct statement?
Abraham was reckoned or declared righteous.
Is that a correct statement?
Why could God declare Abraham righteous? Was it because he (Abraham) believed God? It certainly wasn't because he was baptized for remission of sin.
Is anything about that statement true?
But do you consider disagreeing with your view an attack?
BigGuy2732
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From our revolutionary father, John Adam’s who wandered into a Catholic Church one day:
“This afternoon, led by Curiosity and good Company I strolled away to Mother Church, or rather Grandmother Church, I mean the Romish Chapel. Heard a good, short, moral Essay upon the Duty of Parents to their Children, founded in justice and Charity, to take care of their Interests temporal and spiritual.
This afternoon’s entertainment was to me most awful (Adams here means awe-inspiring and not the more colloquial use of the term common in our time.) and affecting. The poor wretches fingering their beads, chanting Latin, not a word of which they understood, their Pater Nosters and Ave Marias. Their holy water– their crossing themselves perpetually– their bowing to the name of Jesus wherever they hear it– their bowings, and kneelings, and genuflections before the altar. The dress of the priest was rich with lace– his pulpit was velvet and gold. The altar piece was very rich– little images and crucifixes about– wax candles lighted up. But how shall I describe the picture of our Saviour in a frame of marble over the altar, at full length, upon the cross in the agonies, and the blood dropping and streaming from his wounds.
The music consisting of an organ, and a Choir of singers, went all the afternoon, excepting sermon Time, and the Assembly chanted– most sweetly and exquisitely.
Here is everything which can lay hold of the eye, ear, and imagination. Everything which can charm and bewitch the simple and the ignorant. I wonder how Luther ever broke the spell.”
Luther broke the spell because his movement had major financial backing. There were no Protestant revolutions in the east, Middle East, or Northern Africa… because it has nothing to do with accessibility to the scriptures. It has to do with money.
“This afternoon, led by Curiosity and good Company I strolled away to Mother Church, or rather Grandmother Church, I mean the Romish Chapel. Heard a good, short, moral Essay upon the Duty of Parents to their Children, founded in justice and Charity, to take care of their Interests temporal and spiritual.
This afternoon’s entertainment was to me most awful (Adams here means awe-inspiring and not the more colloquial use of the term common in our time.) and affecting. The poor wretches fingering their beads, chanting Latin, not a word of which they understood, their Pater Nosters and Ave Marias. Their holy water– their crossing themselves perpetually– their bowing to the name of Jesus wherever they hear it– their bowings, and kneelings, and genuflections before the altar. The dress of the priest was rich with lace– his pulpit was velvet and gold. The altar piece was very rich– little images and crucifixes about– wax candles lighted up. But how shall I describe the picture of our Saviour in a frame of marble over the altar, at full length, upon the cross in the agonies, and the blood dropping and streaming from his wounds.
The music consisting of an organ, and a Choir of singers, went all the afternoon, excepting sermon Time, and the Assembly chanted– most sweetly and exquisitely.
Here is everything which can lay hold of the eye, ear, and imagination. Everything which can charm and bewitch the simple and the ignorant. I wonder how Luther ever broke the spell.”
Luther broke the spell because his movement had major financial backing. There were no Protestant revolutions in the east, Middle East, or Northern Africa… because it has nothing to do with accessibility to the scriptures. It has to do with money.
Interesting that a Catholic quotes from the catechism and the Vatican rather than from the Bible. You tell us what your church tells you to believe.
What has more financial backing than the Catholic Church?
If John Adams had wandered into a Catholic church today he might've walked in on a priest taking care of his interests with an altar boy.
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
If you call this a response to your claim that we can can be saved like the thief on the cross and not by what Jesus told his disciples to preach to save the world..I can't help you because this isn't exchange.
Abraham lived in the Patriarchal age.
The thief lived in the Mosaic age.
We live in the gospel (Christian age)age.
God's dealings and requirements for people were different in every age.
The gospel dispensation is the last age.
floridays
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How long have you been reading what he posts?
Can you answer that question from reading his posts without asking the question?
I can.
What kind of attack are you implying?
floridays
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This isn't about Joe Biden.
BigGuy2732
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That’s actually pretty rare if you look at the statistics. What isn’t rare is the seminaries are filled with homosexuals who prey on young seminarians and abuse them and then guilt them over it and use it as blackmail. That’s the actual crime going on in our seminaries that aren’t talked about. McCarrick didn’t abuse children, he raped seminarians. The seminary in Baltimore is known as “the pink palace.” It’s a horrible thing and it scandalizes the public and these people will answer for it and there will definitely be reduced culpability for people who avoid the faith over it.
However, that’s not Catholicism at all and everything taught after the second Vatican council is riddled with error. The new mass itself is a Protestant creation out of thin air. The church has been infiltrated and hijacked and now acts as an NGO. God will fix it in time because it was promised to us.
BrownFlush
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You haven’t and you don’t.
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
You haven’t and you don’t.
The reason? You can’t.
