Embassy Attacks

Babagounj

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[h=1]Unacceptable Al Jazeera Got Benghazi Report Before Congress[/h]
[h=2]Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) blasted the chairman of an investigative panel on the Benghazi attacks for allowing its report to be leaked to Al Jazeera America before Congress even obtained copies of it.[/h]"For Al Jazeera to have a copy it a month almost before us is not acceptable," Chaffetz said .
At a Thursday House Oversight and Government Reform hearing on Benghazi, Chaffetz asked Mark Sullivan, the chairman of the Independent Panel of Best Practices, how lawmakers in Congress could have learned about the report on Al Jazeera.
The report found that the State Department knew of security problems in Benghazi and failed to do anything about it. Chaffetz said Congressmen still do not have the report while Al Jazeera America has had it for a month.
"One of my fundamental challenges and problems is the United States Congress doesn't have this report. It's been almost a month. We don't have this report," Chaffetz said. "And yet the first time it comes out is on Al Jazeera?
 

DriveInDriveOut

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First, Mullen disputed that a small military group in Tripoli had been told to “stand down” instead of going to help in Benghazi. Mullen explained that the four-person team had been told to stay in Tripoli because there were concerns about the security of the embassy there.

Second, Mullen addressed claims that friend-16s could have been deployed to fly over the consulate to disrupt the attacks. Mullen said given the placement of the planes and the need to refuel potentially as many as two times en route, that the timing made it impossible for the planes to provide aid.
“There really was a time distance physics problem,” Mullen said. “The military is willing to go into high risk places, it just wasn’t going to happen in time.”

“There’s no one I’ve ever met in the military that wouldn’t want to get help there instantly,” Mullen said, but the “physics of it, the reality of it, it just wasn’t going to happen for 12 to 20 hours.”politico

 

DriveInDriveOut

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Gates, a Republican who was appointed by then-President George W. Bush in 2006 and agreed to stay through more than two years of President Obama's first term, repeatedly declined to criticize the policymakers who devised a response to the September 2012 attack on a U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya, that left four Americans dead, including the U.S. Ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens.

"We don't have a ready force standing by in the Middle East, and so getting somebody there in a timely way would have been very difficult, if not impossible." he explained.

Suggestions that we could have flown a fighter jet over the attackers to "scare them with the noise or something," Gates said, ignored the "number of surface to air missiles that have disappeared from [former Libyan leader] Qaddafi's arsenals."


Another suggestion posed by some critics of the administration, to, as Gates said, "send some small number of special forces or other troops in without knowing what the environment is, without knowing what the threat is, without having any intelligence in terms of what is actually going on on the ground, would have been very dangerous."


"It's sort of a cartoonish impression of military capabilities and military forces," he said. "The one thing that our forces are noted for is planning and preparation before we send people in harm's way, and there just wasn't time to do that."
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
dido,

How about the Government of Libya -- that we assisted??
"Assisting" them is a matter of semantics, as we supplied rebels with weapons to overthrow their previous government a year before the attack. What they were left with was a lot of Al Qaeda. In fact my understanding is that our people who died were there to try and get the weapons we gave them back, they weren't merely civilians.

But how bout them that's a good point. When the attack began, a call was made to Washington, and also to the Feb.17th Brigade, the Libyan security team assigned to protect the Americans.

Their account of the events is pretty interesting:
Benghazi According to the Feb17th Brigade
 

ImWaitingForTheDay

Annoy a conservative....Think for yourself
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oldngray

nowhere special
Still blaming Bush instead of explaining/defending Obama. The difference is Bush never lied or tried to cover up the situation like Obama.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Still blaming Bush instead of explaining/defending Obama. The difference is Bush never lied or tried to cover up the situation like Obama.

that isn't blaming anybody. It simply points out a double standard conservatives seem to hold. If you would like to explain why it is not a double standard, I would be interested in reading it.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
2 different situations. Again, Bush never lied or tried to cover things up and if he did then even conservatives would have jumped on him for it. Obama has done nothing but lie about Benghazi and stonewall all attempts to investigate what really happened. That is the scandal. Not the deaths which were tragic and probably the State Dept can be blamed for mistakes, but the later coverup but the whole Obama administration is why there is so much outrage. No way its a double standard.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
They were there, working for the CIA, to try and buy back the weapons we gave to al Qaeda. It didn't work out very well for them. Gun running in the middle east is dangerous. This is a tiny example of the result of our meddling where we don't belong.

If there's one good thing that has come from Obama's terms, it's that Republicans are all of the sudden anti-war. Hopefully it will stick and these types of things may not happen as much. I'm not holding my breath though. Not to mention the CIA is gonna keep doing whatever the hell they feel like doing.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
2 different situations. Again, Bush never lied or tried to cover things up and if he did then even conservatives would have jumped on him for it. Obama has done nothing but lie about Benghazi and stonewall all attempts to investigate what really happened. That is the scandal. Not the deaths which were tragic and probably the State Dept can be blamed for mistakes, but the later coverup but the whole Obama administration is why there is so much outrage. No way its a double standard.

There isn't alot of outrage.
 

ImWaitingForTheDay

Annoy a conservative....Think for yourself
2 different situations. Again, Bush never lied or tried to cover things up and if he did then even conservatives would have jumped on him for it. Obama has done nothing but lie about Benghazi and stonewall all attempts to investigate what really happened. That is the scandal. Not the deaths which were tragic and probably the State Dept can be blamed for mistakes, but the later coverup but the whole Obama administration is why there is so much outrage. No way its a double standard.
Oh he NEVER LIED???
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