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[texan]

The large, high-voltage batteries used in plug-in vehicles can be more easily damaged in a crash than traditional car batteries and create more potential to electrically shock occupants and rescuers. The Volt’s 400-pound, T-shaped battery extends under the middle of the car and between the back seats rather than fitting under the hood with the engine of a gas-powered vehicle.

 

[The Other Side]

Lithium batteries of all types, from cars to cell phones are DANGEROUS.

Lithium has a tendency to overheat. There have been many recalls on lithium batteries in phones all over the world.

This is nothing new.

peace.

 

[brett636]

Lithium batteries of all types, from cars to cell phones are DANGEROUS.

Lithium has a tendency to overheat. There have been many recalls on lithium batteries in phones all over the world.

This is nothing new.

peace.

For once I can't disagree with you here. Lithium batteries have been fire hazards for a long time, and have been known to do so in many different types of devices. Why someone would want to be driving around in a possible fire hazard is beyond me. Especially one built by government motors. In fact it was lithium ion batteries that brought down that UPS plane.

Report faults batteries for UPS plane crash - Washington Times

 

[klein]

Well, and how many fires and explosions accured with gasoline ?

Hmmm, who on here can create a campfire faster with a lithium battery then with gasoline ?

Don't go overboard here, now.

 

[Babagounj]

I'm telling Smokey the Bear about you.

 

[brett636]

Well, and how many fires and explosions accured with gasoline ?

Hmmm, who on here can create a campfire faster with a lithium battery then with gasoline ?

Don't go overboard here, now.

Gasoline requires an ignition source to ignite. Lithium ion batteries are their own ignition source and can ignite randomly with no warning. You don't hear of gasoline starting fires all on its own without something else as a source of ignition, and in a gas tank gasoline is nearly harmless anyway.

 

[klein]

ok, watch this video, now tell me if they were 8 all electric cars would have the same thing happened ?

8 Cars On Fire, Explosions, Death - YouTube

 

[moreluck]

And, your plan for having every single car in the world being electric?????

Yeah, I thought so.

 

[klein]

And, your plan for having every single car in the world being electric?????

Yeah, I thought so.

Yup, and the whole body of a car will be made out of solar cells.
That's the way the future is leaning anyways, and that's great !

 

[brett636]

Well, and how many fires and explosions accured with gasoline ?

Hmmm, who on here can create a campfire faster with a lithium battery then with gasoline ?

Don't go overboard here, now.

Probably not because atleast 1 or 2 of those cars would have randomly caught fire in their owner's garage and will not be on the road to begin with.

 

[klein]

You know what, start putting a huge storage container of gasoline in your garage, see if that's safer.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You know what, start putting a huge storage container of gasoline in your garage, see if that's safer.

The liquid itself is relatively safe--it is the fuel vapors that are highly combustible.

 

[cachsux]

You know what, start putting a huge storage container of gasoline in your garage, see if that's safer.

You can put a match out in gasoline. Dave`s right. It`s the vapors that are flammable.

The liquid itself is relatively safe--it is the fuel vapors that are highly combustible.

At least two of us paid attention in shop class.

 

[klein]

You can put a match out in gasoline. Dave`s right. It`s the vapors that are flammable.



At least two of us paid attention in shop class.

You are right. I have never been taught in the 26th country of education. I'm used to the first 5.

And I got taught gasoline is more of of a fire hazard then batteries.

You want to think otherwise. So be it.

 

[brett636]

You know what, start putting a huge storage container of gasoline in your garage, see if that's safer.

I keep quite a bit of gasoline in my garage. Its in my car, truck, motorcycle, lawn mower, power washer, weed eater, chainsaw, leaf blower, and the various containers used to store the gasoline for said lawn equipment. I have had no spontaneous combustion issues because its stored safely in the proper containers. A chevy volt on the other hand could cost me all those items as well as my house since my garage is attached and the volt can catch fire at any moment for no reason at all.

 

[cachsux]

You are right. I have never been taught in the 26th country of education. I'm used to the first 5.

And I got taught gasoline is more of of a fire hazard then batteries.

You want to think otherwise. So be it.

There you go with your little superiority act. Give it up. Trying to knock us as a group only points out your own inferiority.

Apparently they didn`t tell you alcohol and driving don`t mix either.

 

[cachsux]

I keep quite a bit of gasoline in my garage. Its in my car, truck, motorcycle, lawn mower, power washer, weed eater, chainsaw, leaf blower, and the various containers used to store the gasoline for said lawn equipment. I have had no spontaneous combustion issues because its stored safely in the proper containers. A chevy volt on the other hand could cost me all those items as well as my house since my garage is attached and the volt can catch fire at any moment for no reason at all.

I agree with your gas statements but a properly cared for battery pack is equally as safe. There`s more around in your house than you realize. This article was in todays SunTimes. Yes they had a battery fire but it clearly states that the protocols for handling the battery were not followed.

Electric car battery catches fire after crash, sparking closer look at safety - Chicago Sun-Times

 

[klein]

I keep quite a bit of gasoline in my garage. Its in my car, truck, motorcycle, lawn mower, power washer, weed eater, chainsaw, leaf blower, and the various containers used to store the gasoline for said lawn equipment. I have had no spontaneous combustion issues because its stored safely in the proper containers. A chevy volt on the other hand could cost me all those items as well as my house since my garage is attached and the volt can catch fire at any moment for no reason at all.

STORING FUEL
All containers release fumes and most are designed to do so.
The safest place to store containers is in an outdoor shed that has good ventilation and is located far away from the house.
Alternatively, keep containers outdoors in a well-ventilated area.
Fire safety officials never recommend storing gasoline containers, no matter how few or how small, in a garage or home. There are too many potential sources of ignition.Be aware of ignition sources in your home and garage, especially pilot lights for appliances that use natural gas.Source: Palm Harbor Fire Rescue Inspector Jim Fletcher.

 

[cachsux]

STORING FUEL
All containers release fumes and most are designed to do so.
The safest place to store containers is in an outdoor shed that has good ventilation and is located far away from the house.
Alternatively, keep containers outdoors in a well-ventilated area.
Fire safety officials never recommend storing gasoline containers, no matter how few or how small, in a garage or home. There are too many potential sources of ignition.Be aware of ignition sources in your home and garage, especially pilot lights for appliances that use natural gas.Source: Palm Harbor Fire Rescue Inspector Jim Fletcher.

He states personal experience and the best you can do is Google?

"Cutting and pasting is fun!"

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

"Cutting and pasting is fun!"

There are some here who have it down to a science.