Government Motors

moreluck

golden ticket member
STORING FUEL
All containers release fumes and most are designed to do so.
The safest place to store containers is in an outdoor shed that has good ventilation and is located far away from the house.
Alternatively, keep containers outdoors in a well-ventilated area.
Fire safety officials never recommend storing gasoline containers, no matter how few or how small, in a garage or home. There are too many potential sources of ignition.Be aware of ignition sources in your home and garage, especially pilot lights for appliances that use natural gas.Source: Palm Harbor Fire Rescue Inspector Jim Fletcher.

So, when are you buying your electric snowblower ???????????
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
STORING FUEL
All containers release fumes and most are designed to do so.
The safest place to store containers is in an outdoor shed that has good ventilation and is located far away from the house.
Alternatively, keep containers outdoors in a well-ventilated area.
Fire safety officials never recommend storing gasoline containers, no matter how few or how small, in a garage or home. There are too many potential sources of ignition.Be aware of ignition sources in your home and garage, especially pilot lights for appliances that use natural gas.Source: Palm Harbor Fire Rescue Inspector Jim Fletcher.
From Palm Harbor...............Canada doesn't have safety rules?
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
November 16, 2011 @ 2:10 pm |
Obama Regime Boosts Estimate of Auto Bailout Losses To $23.6 Billion…


How does the Obama admin get away with holding the auto bailouts up as one of their few achievements when the loss to American taxpayers exceeds $23 billion?
(Detroit News) — The Treasury Department dramatically boosted its estimate of losses from its $85 billion auto industry bailout by more than $9 billion in the face of General Motors Co.’s steep stock decline.
In its monthly report to Congress, the Treasury Department now says it expects to lose $23.6 billion, up from its previous estimate of $14.33 billion.
The Treasury now pegs the cost of the bailout of GM, Chrysler Group LLC and the auto finance companies at $79.6 billion. It no longer includes $5 billion it set aside to guarantee payments to auto suppliers in 2009.
The big increase is a reflection of the sharp decline in the value of GM’s share price.

The current estimate of losses is based on GM’s Sept. 30 closing price of $20.18, down one-third over the previous quarterly price.

GM’s stock closed Monday at $22.99, up 2 percent. The government won’t reassess the estimate of the costs until Dec. 30.

The government has recovered $23.2 billion of its $49.5 billion GM bailout, and cut its stake in the company from 61 percent to 26.5 percent. But it has been forced to put on hold the sale of its remaining 500 million shares of stock.

The new estimate also hikes the overall cost of the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program costs to taxpayers. TARP is the emergency program approved by Congress in late 2008 at the height of the financial crisis.

In total, the government used $425 billion to bailout banks, insurance companies and automakers, and provided $45 billion in housing program assistance.

The government now expects to lose $57.33 billion, including the full cost of the housing program, up from $36.7 billion. The new estimate means the government doesn’t believe it will make an overall profit on its bailouts.
 

Lue C Fur

Evil member
November 16, 2011 @ 2:10 pm |
Obama Regime Boosts Estimate of Auto Bailout Losses To $23.6 Billion…


How does the Obama admin get away with holding the auto bailouts up as one of their few achievements when the loss to American taxpayers exceeds $23 billion?

Shhhh...dont let this get out. The Liberals think we did not pay a dime just like the Messiah said and GM paid back everything they owed.
 

klein

Für Meno :)
While you're at the number game, Moreluck, you can estimate the amount of losses on some of your properties that you haven't sold , yet !
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
While you're at the number game, Moreluck, you can estimate the amount of losses on some of your properties that you haven't sold , yet !
Just so you know the facts......I sold 12 properties, duplexes, single homes and 4-plexes in Utah .....all of which were at least DOUBLE the price I paid for them !!
My one remaining rental property is a 4-plex in Idaho with an $800 positive cash flow.........that's what I get every month after all expenses are paid. I just can't bring myself to sell it. It's a little gold mine. There's always a special place for your first!!

I haven't lost anything with my real estate investments!! You don't know what you are talking about....as usual.
 

klein

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That wasn't my point, but it's hard to estimate a gain or a loss if you hang on to something. Who knows when and for what amount the Government will sell it's remaining shares ?
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
That wasn't my point, but it's hard to estimate a gain or a loss if you hang on to something. Who knows when and for what amount the Government will sell it's remaining shares ?
Your skull is too thick....I told you I sold 12 properties......that's REAL PROFIT, not guesses. There are no estimates......just the actual selling prices.
And WTF do my real estate investments have to do with Gov't motors?
If you want to change the subject, start a new thread for real estate.
 

klein

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Goverment motors !!!! Get it !!!
How much did the government sell all of it's shares for ???? How much ???? Tell me !!!!
I want to know how much they lost in exact numbers ! (even though they still hold shares and haven't sold them all) !

Now get me that info ! I want to know !!!!
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
Goverment motors !!!! Get it !!!
How much did the government sell all of it's shares for ???? How much ???? Tell me !!!!
I want to know how much they lost in exact numbers ! (even though they still hold shares and haven't sold them all) !

Now get me that info ! I want to know !!!!
Just read the article I already posted. The numbers are there. Go order someone else around...............
 
Goverment motors !!!! Get it !!!
How much did the government sell all of it's shares for ???? How much ???? Tell me !!!!
I want to know how much they lost in exact numbers ! (even though they still hold shares and haven't sold them all) !

Now get me that info ! I want to know !!!!
May as well give up Klein, you tried to manipulate the questions and snide accusations and Moreluck handed you your ass. You failed. If your point was about GM, you shouldn't have brought her personal real estate dealings into the equation.
 

klein

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Yeah, I give up, GM shares will be sold sometime in the future for $20 a share, like the article claims ! Better ?
 

wkmac

Well-Known Member
The Treasury Department yesterday revised its loss estimate for the Government Motors bailout from $14.33 billion to $23.6 billion, thanks to the company’s sinking stock price. GM’s Sept. 30 closing price, on which the new estimate is based, was $20.18, about $13 less than its December IPO price and $35 less than what is needed for taxpayers to break even.
The $23.6 billion represents a 25 percent loss on the feds $60 billion direct “investment” in GM. But that’s not all that taxpayers are on the hook for. As I explained previously, Uncle Sam’s special GM bankruptcy package allowed the company to write off $45 billion in previous losses going forward. This could work out to as much as $15 billion in tax savings that GM wouldn’t have had had it gone through a normal bankruptcy. Why? Because after bankruptcy, the tax liabilities of companies increase since they have no more losses to write off.
This means that the total hit to taxpayers, who still own about a quarter of the company, could add up to $38.6 billion. That’s even more that the $34 billion on the outside I had predicted in May.

Treasury Admits What Everybody Already Knew: Taxpayer Losses On GM Bailout Are Going to be Massive
 
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