MrFedEx
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Elaborate on that please.
Ground taking over
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yadig
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Don’t know. Unions are pretty big up in Canada, they are smarter up there!
fedx
Extra Large Package
Then why not do it now? Why would you move everything over to Ground only to get rid of Ground in a decade and move it all back to Express? I think he's pulling your leg. He's telling you "everything will be okay" 10 to 12 years from now, so don't worry. Put it at a far off enough date that you forget about what's going on now.
FedupExpress
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Your señoir is probably just as frightened about losing his gig and is simply wishful thinking
Look at Canada. Ground ran its course mate. Nobody wants to work for Pennies and 0 benefits anymore
dezguy
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And no one at express is going to want UPS work for express pay.
Guitarman01
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I still think there is a chance it could go the other way
Well the ground facilities are bigger with more volume so it makes sense to move express to ground, not the other way around. I also think the plan would have to be much more delicate with the contractors so things don't collapse.
Guitarman01
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I'd also miss the vans that ride great and stay fairly cool in the summer as opposed to those bread trucks that are like ovens and ride like the back of a bus.
Fred's Myth
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You do realize, don't you, that the discussion is over employees, not facilities, right?
It’s all good, they’ll be replaced. They ain’t going anywhere anyway express has a pretty loyal workforce surprisingly
Guitarman01
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One van, one service would more than likely operate out of ground facilities. You create the illusion that it's all going to be contacted out until it's not.
yadig
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I hope you are right about that, but I doubt it!
dezguy
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We'll see how loyal they are when we're being dispatched with 150 stops.
FedupExpress
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The golden children and favorites are loyal because they have it good, I don't think everyone will stay
Gone fishin
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Usually truckers owned their own rigs as independent contractors. They weren’t cheap
Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
Cast your aspersions on whoever made the remark.
Yes, Ground facilities are larger than Express facilities.
Yes, combining both opcos for efficiency is something I have advocated for 20+ years.
Yes, turning control over to Ground will, IMHO, destroy the brand. (based on history)
Yes, Fedex management has decided to turn over the bulk of the business to Ground.
No, what you think, or what I think, will not change that decision.
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Very few Express drivers who end up at Ground will stay there and I’m pretty sure the company understands that. Contractors aren’t compensated well enough to match the pay and benefits couriers get. Just look at it as layoffs designed to keep the company’s hands clean.
It will be fine
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They don’t seem to care about keeping their hands clean. They are laying off workers left and right already. It shouldn’t be surprising as the entire industry normalizes after the artificial highs of the pandemic.
Gone fishin
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Well, the fact that Canada went express tells us what we all know , Express is the better option. If it wasn’t they would have went contractors, no ?
The Canadian laws and people are the same as USA , contractors aren’t illegal, but people hate them.
Actually little easier there because healthcare is free.
We’ll see how this shakes out here
The Canadian laws and people are the same as USA , contractors aren’t illegal, but people hate them.
Actually little easier there because healthcare is free.
We’ll see how this shakes out here
