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oldngray
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Florida ‘Muslim-free’ gun shop owner wins discrimination suit
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/28/florida-muslim-free-gun-shop-owner-wins-discrimina/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/28/florida-muslim-free-gun-shop-owner-wins-discrimina/
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
'Shortly after the court’s decision to drop the case, Mr. Hallinan posted a video to Facebook celebrating the victory and said he will give out bumper stickers for customers to turn their vehicles into Muslim-free zones. He is also selling “jihadist targets” for shooting practice.'
Hope he makes a lot of money off the targets, he's gonna need it for the years appeals.
oldngray
nowhere special
Black Friday gun background checks break single-day record: FBI
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/2/black-friday-gun-background-checks-breaks-single-d/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/2/black-friday-gun-background-checks-breaks-single-d/
trickpony1
Well-Known Member
It looks like the citizens are preparing for something?
Ya, to end up killing their own families, wives, children, girlfriends.
Been that way for decades and getting worse every year, why not take advantage of black friday deals and save some money before killing their families?
TOS.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
Actually, gun deaths have decreased every year since 1993.
Babagounj
Strength through joy
No real FBI Data facts .
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
There has been a 49% per capita REDUCTION in firearm deaths since 1993. Its a fact, check it yourself if you dont believe me. And during the sane time frame, the number of guns in circulation and gun owners has continued to INCREASE. Less crime and more guns. Interesting.
MAKAVELI
Well-Known Member
http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...mericans-killed-guns-1968-all-wars-says-colu/
One of them was: "More Americans have died from guns in the United States since 1968 than on battlefields of all the wars in American history."
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34996604
The statistics
US gun crime in 2015
Figures up to 3 December
353
Mass shootings
62 shootings at schools
12,223 people killed in gun incidents
24,722 people injured in gun incidents
Source: Shooting tracker, Gun Violence Archive
http://www.humanosphere.org/science/2015/10/visualizing-gun-deaths-comparing-u-s-rest-world/
In a 2013 article for The Atlantic online that compared gun deaths in U.S. cities to some of the deadliest places in the world, the authors created a map, below, that shows Atlanta has the same gun murder rate as South Africa, Detroit as El Salvador, Phoenix equal to Mexico’s gun homicide rate:
The Atlantic
Another screen grab, below, compares gun homicide rates in the U.S. with countries that frequently make headlines for conflict-related violence (Afghanistan, Iraq, the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Pakistan).
The U.S. has higher rates of homicides from guns than Pakistan. At 4.5 deaths per 100,000 people, the U.S. rates aren’t much lower than gun homicide rates in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (5.2 deaths per 100,000 people). Annually, the U.S. has about two fewer gun homicide deaths per 100,000 people than Iraq, which has 6.5 deaths per 100,000.
One of them was: "More Americans have died from guns in the United States since 1968 than on battlefields of all the wars in American history."
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34996604
The statistics
US gun crime in 2015
Figures up to 3 December
353
Mass shootings
62 shootings at schools
12,223 people killed in gun incidents
24,722 people injured in gun incidents
Source: Shooting tracker, Gun Violence Archive
http://www.humanosphere.org/science/2015/10/visualizing-gun-deaths-comparing-u-s-rest-world/
In a 2013 article for The Atlantic online that compared gun deaths in U.S. cities to some of the deadliest places in the world, the authors created a map, below, that shows Atlanta has the same gun murder rate as South Africa, Detroit as El Salvador, Phoenix equal to Mexico’s gun homicide rate:
The Atlantic
Another screen grab, below, compares gun homicide rates in the U.S. with countries that frequently make headlines for conflict-related violence (Afghanistan, Iraq, the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Pakistan).
The U.S. has higher rates of homicides from guns than Pakistan. At 4.5 deaths per 100,000 people, the U.S. rates aren’t much lower than gun homicide rates in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (5.2 deaths per 100,000 people). Annually, the U.S. has about two fewer gun homicide deaths per 100,000 people than Iraq, which has 6.5 deaths per 100,000.
oldngray
nowhere special
Media Push Activists’ Count of Mass Shootings
Only 21 of 355 shootings media cite meet FBI standard for mass murder
http://freebeacon.com/issues/media-push-activists-count-of-mass-shootings/
Only 21 of 355 shootings media cite meet FBI standard for mass murder
http://freebeacon.com/issues/media-push-activists-count-of-mass-shootings/
MAKAVELI
Well-Known Member
Apparently you cannot distinguish the different Definitions of Shootings, and Murders.
http://www.snopes.com/351-mass-shootings/
The claim that there were 351 mass shootings in the first 334 days of 2015 hinges on the definition of mass shooting. While it may seem like a simple task to define "mass shooting," there really is no agreed upon definition. A 2013 congressional research service report defined a mass shooting as an incident involving four or more gun related deaths:
There is no broadly agreed-to, specific conceptualization of this issue, so this report uses its own definition for public mass shootings. These are incidents occurring in relatively public places, involving four or more deaths—not including the shooter(s)—and gunmen who select victims somewhat indiscriminately. The violence in these cases is not a means to an end—the gunmen do not pursue criminal profit or kill in the name of terrorist ideologies, for example.
The same criteria (four or more deaths) was used in a 2014 study on mass shootings and the FBI used the same criteria in 2005 to define "mass murder." ShootingTracker.com, however, has its own definition of mass shooting:
The old FBI definition of Mass Murder (not even the most recent one) is four or more people murdered in one event. It is only logical that a Mass Shooting is four or more people shot in one event.
Here at the Mass Shooting Tracker, we count the number of people shot rather than the number people killed because, "shooting" means "people shot".
“The goal is to stop minimizing these acts of violence,” Weller explains. The site’s authors point to a 2012 shooting in which one person was killed and 18 people were wounded at a nightclub. Because only one person died, it was not considered a mass shooting. This June, 10 people were shot at a block party on a basketball court in Detroit; the next day, 11 were wounded when two people opened fire with a shotgun at a block party in West Philadelphia. Neither were widely referred to as mass shootings.
“Arguing that 18 people shot during one event is not a mass shooting is absurd,” the Tracker’s founders write. Medical advancements have helped save lives that would have otherwise been lost, a fact Weller believes the gun lobby benefits from. “Those gunshot victims are still just as shot and will never be the same,” he says.
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oldngray
nowhere special
Citing the Mass Shooting Tracker, several publications reported Wednesday that there have been at least 351 shootings in the first 334 days of 2015. In other words, mass shootings are a more-than-once-daily occurrence in the United States.
That’s partly because the crowd-sourced tracker, unlike other databases, uses a relatively broad definition of “mass shooting”: an incident where four or more people (including the perpetrator) are injured by gunfire.
Traditionally, scholars and law enforcement officers have defined a mass shooting as an incident in which four or more people (not including the gunman) are killed by gunfire.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mass-shootings-and-active-shooters--why-definitions-matter-142701852.html
When you make up your own definitions to support your argument you can twist the numbers to show anything. But render it meaningless. Which is what the anti-gun groups attempted to do.
That’s partly because the crowd-sourced tracker, unlike other databases, uses a relatively broad definition of “mass shooting”: an incident where four or more people (including the perpetrator) are injured by gunfire.
Traditionally, scholars and law enforcement officers have defined a mass shooting as an incident in which four or more people (not including the gunman) are killed by gunfire.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mass-shootings-and-active-shooters--why-definitions-matter-142701852.html
When you make up your own definitions to support your argument you can twist the numbers to show anything. But render it meaningless. Which is what the anti-gun groups attempted to do.
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