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Babagounj

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Didn’t you get the memo that electric vehicles are good? Now that Elon Musk is backing DeSantis and will bring Trump back to Twitter.

So you better change your tune and get onboard with the EV future.
I can't have a charging station at where I reside and the closest is 10 miles away.
So tell me why electric vehicles are in my future?
 

TearsInRain

IE boogeyman
Blew up our debt, pro gun control, :censored2:ty interventionism where it wasn't needed, let the CIA arm coke lords for 0 actual gain to us, amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, Iran-Contra was literal treason and he absolutely was responsible, union busting, financial deregulation

Oh and trickle down economics which was a complete scam on the American middle class
 

newolddude

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reagan in the top 5 for being garbage
Reagan landed at the right time. If
Great economy, beat the Russians, and was a great guy to boot. And AIDS crisis? How could that have possibly been his fault?

I’m not a Carter fan. He’s a great and kind person but bad as a president. But he also got the job at the wrong time.

Reagan didn’t fix the economy until 1983. That recession wore itself out.

The Russians beat themselves in Afghanistan.

Reagan made Americans feel great about themselves again while not really doing much. And the last few years of office he was in mental decline.

If Reagan would have beaten Ford in the 1976 primaries and won the election, history would have been much different.
 

vantexan

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Blew up our debt, pro gun control, :censored2:ty interventionism where it wasn't needed, let the CIA arm coke lords for 0 actual gain to us, amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, Iran-Contra was literal treason and he absolutely was responsible, union busting, financial deregulation

Oh and trickle down economics which was a complete scam on the American middle class
Caused the Soviet Union to collapse. Had the biggest peacetime economic recovery in history. You made some fair points but in total I'd put Reagan on Rushmore.
 

vantexan

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Reagan landed at the right time. If


I’m not a Carter fan. He’s a great and kind person but bad as a president. But he also got the job at the wrong time.

Reagan didn’t fix the economy until 1983. That recession wore itself out.

The Russians beat themselves in Afghanistan.

Reagan made Americans feel great about themselves again while not really doing much. And the last few years of office he was in mental decline.

If Reagan would have beaten Ford in the 1976 primaries and won the election, history would have been much different.
You forget that Reagan built up our military essentially breaking the Soviet Union financially when they tried to keep up. And his economic policies took us out of the recession Carter caused. Mid to late 80's were good times in the U.S. And he did it working with a Democrat controlled Congress. Democrats love to push that mental decline thing but he never displayed in office the cognitive issues Biden has yet that's swept under the rug.
 

Ou812fu

Polishing toilet bowls since 1966.
I can't have a charging station at where I reside and the closest is 10 miles away.
So tell me why electric vehicles are in my future?
Because stable geniuses want this to work..
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TearsInRain

IE boogeyman
Caused the Soviet Union to collapse. Had the biggest peacetime economic recovery in history. You made some fair points but in total I'd put Reagan on Rushmore.
i would argue the Soviet Union was destined to collapse even if he had sat back and done nothing; i would also argue that Nixon/Ford/Carter were a trifecta of bad economic policy and literally anyone with half a brain could have had the same economic recovery

amnesty and the debt could arguably destroy this country
 
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