Guns

[Thebrownblob]

Could Hunter Biden be the next poster child for Second Amendment rights?

The president’s son is under investigation for potentially breaking the law banning drug users from owning guns – but the law’s constitutionality faces growing challenges.

www.politico.com

@newolddude here is the son of one of your gun control heroes joe Biden now claiming a gun control measure, filling out a form and being truthful about your drug use is a violation of his second amendment rights. Rules for thee but not for me. Hypocrites, These are the kind of people you support. Come on man.

 

[bottomups]

Could Hunter Biden be the next poster child for Second Amendment rights?

The president’s son is under investigation for potentially breaking the law banning drug users from owning guns – but the law’s constitutionality faces growing challenges.

www.politico.com

@newolddude here is the son of one of your gun control heroes joe Biden now claiming a gun control measure, filling out a form and being truthful about your drug use is a violation of his second amendment rights. Rules for thee but not for me. Hypocrites, These are the kind of people you support. Come on man.

What does drug use have to do with owning a gun?

 

[Thebrownblob]

What does drug use have to do with owning a gun?

Your point? Why is it on the form and why is it that you have to sign for your background check and why is the penalty 15 years in prison, and $250,000? And why is Hunter Biden’s defense that he has a second amendment right and that he’s allowed to lie?

My argument isn’t that it should be on the form. My argument is this is one of your nonsense liberal “common sense gun control” BS, but yet when it comes time for one of your people to pay the price, they don’t want to..

ATF Form 4473

Purpose and content of the ATF Form 4473, plain guidelines on the document creation line by line, and other peculiarities about the document.

formspal.com

 

[bottomups]

Your point? Why is it on the form and why is it that you have to sign for your background check and why is the penalty 15 years in prison, and $250,000? And why is Hunter Biden’s defense that he has a second amendment right and that he’s allowed to lie?

My argument isn’t that it should be on the form. My argument is this is one of your nonsense liberal “common sense gun control” BS, but yet when it comes time for one of your people to pay the price, they don’t want to..

ATF Form 4473

Purpose and content of the ATF Form 4473, plain guidelines on the document creation line by line, and other peculiarities about the document.

formspal.com

Where in the 2nd does it state except for drug use?
How many people that own guns use alcohol?
Why can people with mental health issues own guns?
Why can people with a violent record of domestic abuse own guns?

 

[Thebrownblob]

Where in the 2nd does it state except for drug use?
How many people that own guns use alcohol?
Why can people with mental health issues own guns?
Why can people with a violent record of domestic abuse own guns?

Why are you covering for someone who lied on a federal form? Is there no end your hypocrisy?
He could’ve told the truth, and then sued the ATF. If he was not allowed the right to own a weapon. Instead, he chose to lie.

Now you agree that these common sense rules are nothing more than an infringement?

Apparently you’re just fine with someone who has a very powerful important daddy getting him out of trouble. Because if I did it, or you did it, and they knew we just be in jail right now.

 

[bottomups]

Why are you covering for someone who lied on a federal form? Is there no end your hypocrisy?
He could’ve told the truth, and then sued the ATF. If he was not allowed the right to own a weapon. Instead, he chose to lie.

Now you agree that these common sense rules are nothing more than an infringement?

Apparently you’re just fine with someone who has a very powerful important daddy getting him out of trouble. Because if I did it, or you did it, and they knew we just be in jail right now.

Just where did I state I was covering for Mr. Biden?
Does law enforcement go after everyone's guns who are charged and/or convicted of drug charges?

 

[Thebrownblob]

Just where did I state I was covering for Mr. Biden?
Does law enforcement go after everyone's guns who are charged and/or convicted of drug charges?

Sorry, the laws not tit for tat. It’s not law-enforcement job it’s a federal agencies, the ATF job, and he lied on the form. Is there any debate? Do you think that’s OK? Do you think he deserves punishment or should we just ignore all federal forms which consequently I would happen to agree with you if you agree to that but I know you don’t it’s just this particular time you want to make an argument because a complete turd of a human being with a dad who is also a complete turd and wants to enforce the rules on the rest of us. But not himself nor his family.

What is the legality of this form at all? Why should I have to fill it out? Even if I’m being honest, which I always have been? Where is that at in the second amendment?

Shouldn’t we be using the court systems instead of lying?

Your argument just like your logic, has a lot of flaws.

 

[bottomups]

Your point? Why is it on the form and why is it that you have to sign for your background check and why is the penalty 15 years in prison, and $250,000? And why is Hunter Biden’s defense that he has a second amendment right and that he’s allowed to lie?

My argument isn’t that it should be on the form. My argument is this is one of your nonsense liberal “common sense gun control” BS, but yet when it comes time for one of your people to pay the price, they don’t want to..

ATF Form 4473

Purpose and content of the ATF Form 4473, plain guidelines on the document creation line by line, and other peculiarities about the document.

formspal.com

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I would bet 21e would make a high percentage of gun owners in violation of the law.
Would you be in support of ATF taking away their guns?

 

[Thebrownblob]

I would bet 21e would make a high percentage of gun owners in violation of the law.
Would you be in support of ATF taking away their guns?

Are you in support of knowingly, lying on a federal form? Should we all just ignore them because you say so? I’m all for a nullification of federal overreach.

Remember, you’re the one who’s the hypocrite here not me I never asked for these laws you’re the one that thinks these people are dangerous mostly because they’re putting the black and brown and poor people in jail but not the rich white guy, do I smell a little racism and elitism coming from you? Not a huge shock since your hero Joe Biden is one of the guys to make sure a lot of these people had criminal federal convictions in the 90s.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/21/us/gun-form-liars-atf-invs/index.html

Man charged for allegedly lying on ATF form when trying to purchase a handgun

A man attempting to purchase a handgun at a Davenport store in January was arrested Thursday for allegedly lying on the ATF transaction record form about a felony conviction in

qctimes.com

3 southeast Missouri men charged with "lying and buying" firearms

Three southeast Missouri men were arrested on indictments charging them with making false statements in connections with the purchase of firearms.

www.kfvs12.com

Davenport woman charged with lying on federal form to purchase firearm

Davenport police have arrested woman for allegedly lying on a form required to purchase a firearm.

qctimes.com

Man who had more than 200 firearms at home pleads guilty

PROVIDENCE, R.I. (AP) — A Rhode Island man who had more than 200 guns and thousands of rounds of ammunition at his home pleaded guilty on Wednesday to lying to federal authorities about his drug use when he purchased the weapons.

apnews.com

Police: Man charged for lying on ATF form for firearm - NewsBreak

Muncy, Pa. — Police say a Muncy man failed to disclose a previous drug conviction when he filled out a form to purchase a firearm. Trooper Tyler Morse of the State Police at Montoursville says Deon Caprice Brown, 54, lied on the firearms transaction record form when he checked...

www.newsbreak.com

Kodak Black Reportedly Lied On A Form While Trying To Purchase A Gun

The 21-year-old rapper was arrested prior to his scheduled performance at Rolling Loud music festival over the weekend.

uproxx.com

Multiple defendants across Georgia sentenced or await sentencing on federal firearms charges

GEORGIA (WJBF) – At least 20 defendants have been sentenced to federal prison or await further proceedings after pleading guilty to federal charges including illegal possession of firearms. …

www.wjbf.com

Friend of Dayton Shooter Arrested for Illegal Possession of a Firearm, Lying on 4473 - The Truth About Guns

An Ohio man has been arrested and charged with possession of a firearm by an unlawful user of a controlled substance and making false statements or representations. Ethan Kollie, 24, of Kettering, was arrested Friday night in Beavercreek on suspicion of a firearms violation unrelated to the...

www.thetruthaboutguns.com

 

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Are you in support of knowingly, lying on a federal form? Should we all just ignore them because you say so? I’m all for a nullification of federal overreach.

Remember, you’re the one who’s the hypocrite here not me I never asked for these laws you’re the one that thinks these people are dangerous mostly because they’re putting the black and brown and poor people in jail but not the rich white guy, do I smell a little racism and elitism coming from you? Not a huge shock since your hero Joe Biden is one of the guys to make sure a lot of these people had criminal federal convictions in the 90s.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/21/us/gun-form-liars-atf-invs/index.html

Man charged for allegedly lying on ATF form when trying to purchase a handgun

A man attempting to purchase a handgun at a Davenport store in January was arrested Thursday for allegedly lying on the ATF transaction record form about a felony conviction in

qctimes.com

3 southeast Missouri men charged with "lying and buying" firearms

Three southeast Missouri men were arrested on indictments charging them with making false statements in connections with the purchase of firearms.

www.kfvs12.com

Davenport woman charged with lying on federal form to purchase firearm

Davenport police have arrested woman for allegedly lying on a form required to purchase a firearm.

qctimes.com

Man who had more than 200 firearms at home pleads guilty

PROVIDENCE, R.I. (AP) — A Rhode Island man who had more than 200 guns and thousands of rounds of ammunition at his home pleaded guilty on Wednesday to lying to federal authorities about his drug use when he purchased the weapons.

apnews.com

Police: Man charged for lying on ATF form for firearm - NewsBreak

Muncy, Pa. — Police say a Muncy man failed to disclose a previous drug conviction when he filled out a form to purchase a firearm. Trooper Tyler Morse of the State Police at Montoursville says Deon Caprice Brown, 54, lied on the firearms transaction record form when he checked...

www.newsbreak.com

Kodak Black Reportedly Lied On A Form While Trying To Purchase A Gun

The 21-year-old rapper was arrested prior to his scheduled performance at Rolling Loud music festival over the weekend.

uproxx.com

Multiple defendants across Georgia sentenced or await sentencing on federal firearms charges

GEORGIA (WJBF) – At least 20 defendants have been sentenced to federal prison or await further proceedings after pleading guilty to federal charges including illegal possession of firearms. …

www.wjbf.com

Friend of Dayton Shooter Arrested for Illegal Possession of a Firearm, Lying on 4473 - The Truth About Guns

An Ohio man has been arrested and charged with possession of a firearm by an unlawful user of a controlled substance and making false statements or representations. Ethan Kollie, 24, of Kettering, was arrested Friday night in Beavercreek on suspicion of a firearms violation unrelated to the...

www.thetruthaboutguns.com

You're assuming. I didn't vote for Joe.
I believe I'm on record here voting for the other Jo.

For the record, I admit to not being completely honest with filing some Federal Tax Forms and/or DOT Forms in the past.

 

[Thebrownblob]

You're assuming. I didn't vote for Joe.
I believe I'm on record here voting for the other Jo.

For the record, I admit to not being completely honest with filing some Federal Tax Forms and/or DOT Forms in the past.

 

[Fred's Myth]

Where in the 2nd does it state except for drug use?
How many people that own guns use alcohol?
Why can people with mental health issues own guns?
Why can people with a violent record of domestic abuse own guns?

Are you of the belief that there are no 2nd Amendment restrictions? Educate yourself.

Federal law establishes a baseline national standard regarding individuals’ eligibility to acquire and possess firearms. Firearm Prohibitions.

 

[bottomups]

Are you of the belief that there are no 2nd Amendment restrictions? Educate yourself.

Federal law establishes a baseline national standard regarding individuals’ eligibility to acquire and possess firearms. Firearm Prohibitions.

Anyone who wants to acquire or possess a firearm has the ability to do so regardless of the laws now on record.

 

[Fred's Myth]

Anyone who wants to acquire or possess a firearm has the ability to do so regardless of the laws now on record.

Of course. Legally is the subject of the conversation.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

Where in the 2nd does it state except for drug use?
How many people that own guns use alcohol?
Why can people with mental health issues own guns?
Why can people with a violent record of domestic abuse own guns?

You actually can't own a gun with a record of domestic violence.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Anyone who wants to acquire or possess a firearm has the ability to do so regardless of the laws now on record.

And regardless of whether or not, we agree with this federal law, it’s still doesn’t give you the right to lie knowingly on a federal form.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

And regardless of whether or not, we agree with this federal law, it’s still doesn’t give you the right to lie knowingly on a federal form.

I wouldn't say I "lie" to the federal government...I'd say we're equally honest with each other.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I wouldn't say I "lie" to the federal government...I'd say we're equally honest with each other.

Understandable but unfortunately, them lying to you is not a big deal to them as you lying to them.
My overall point is the hypocrisy of people who want the government to control things like that until they don’t because it affects them or something they care about.

Instead of being a leader, and saying, if my son is guilty, he should at least be charged with paying a fine countless others have had to do so, including jail time. instead they’re using the argument that they castigate others for using.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

Understandable but unfortunately, them lying to you is not a big deal to them as you lying to them.
My overall point is the hypocrisy of people who want the government to control things like that until they don’t because it affects them or something they care about.

Instead of being a leader, and saying, if my son is guilty, he should at least be charged with paying a fine countless others have had to do so, including jail time. instead they’re using the argument that they castigate others for using.

You don't have to convince me bro, I get it.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Just where did I state I was covering for Mr. Biden?
Does law enforcement go after everyone's guns who are charged and/or convicted of drug charges?

I'm not defending Hunter Biden, but what about this other guy, he didn't go to jail so neither should hunter!!!

Lol.