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Babagounj

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Laws without emergency preambles typically take effect 90 days after passage. House and Senate Democrats did not attach an emergency preamble to the gun law, which Gov. Healey signed on July 25.
“That’s the only reason [Healey is] acting. Make no mistake about it,” Leary said. “The only reason she’s signing this as an emergency preamble is because they don’t want this suspended.”
...volunteers have collected more than 65,000 signatures so far, and he expects as many as 95,000 by the time they need to submit the paperwork for verification with local elections officials next week.
 

over9five

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Laws without emergency preambles typically take effect 90 days after passage. House and Senate Democrats did not attach an emergency preamble to the gun law, which Gov. Healey signed on July 25.
“That’s the only reason [Healey is] acting. Make no mistake about it,” Leary said. “The only reason she’s signing this as an emergency preamble is because they don’t want this suspended.”
...volunteers have collected more than 65,000 signatures so far, and he expects as many as 95,000 by the time they need to submit the paperwork for verification with local elections officials next week.
The emergency preamble voids all that democratic process garbage...
Dirty politician move.
 

Babagounj

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The emergency preamble voids all that democratic process garbage...
Dirty politician move.
During debates on the proposed laws ; questions were asked about the statistics on "ghost" gun uses within the commonwealth and no answers were ever given. It wasn't that they didn't know the answers, they just didn't bother to do the research.
 

over9five

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During debates on the proposed laws ; questions were asked about the statistics on "ghost" gun uses within the commonwealth and no answers were ever given. It wasn't that they didn't know the answers, they just didn't bother to do the research.
Need a lawsuit or something. Think NRA- ILA has some plan.
I'm gonna make a donation to them.
 

Babagounj

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Need a lawsuit or something. Think NRA- ILA has some plan.
I'm gonna make a donation to them.
Follow-up from goal.org
Chapter 135 EOPSS Guidance #2


On the very same day that Governor Healey promises to sign an emergency preamble to Chapter 135, yet another suspension of the new mandates come from her agencies. Guidance Letter #2 deals with licensed firearm retailers.


As the Governor moves to enact Chapter 135 immediately, retailers would be prohibited from selling rifles and shotguns of any kind. This is because the new mandates that any kind of firearm must go through laboratory testing before being placed on an "approved roster". This now include rifles and shotguns.


Perhaps knowing the administration was facing immediate federal court action from GOAL, Healey continues to play some version of "whack a mole". Whenever we are ready to proceed with federal court action, her agencies suspend enforcement of that particular section of Chapter 135.

Approved gun listed;
https://www.mass.gov/lists/approved-firearms-rosters
 
Follow-up from goal.org
Chapter 135 EOPSS Guidance #2


On the very same day that Governor Healey promises to sign an emergency preamble to Chapter 135, yet another suspension of the new mandates come from her agencies. Guidance Letter #2 deals with licensed firearm retailers.


As the Governor moves to enact Chapter 135 immediately, retailers would be prohibited from selling rifles and shotguns of any kind. This is because the new mandates that any kind of firearm must go through laboratory testing before being placed on an "approved roster". This now include rifles and shotguns.


Perhaps knowing the administration was facing immediate federal court action from GOAL, Healey continues to play some version of "whack a mole". Whenever we are ready to proceed with federal court action, her agencies suspend enforcement of that particular section of Chapter 135.

Approved gun listed;
https://www.mass.gov/lists/approved-firearms-rosters
Wtf is going on up there?
 

Babagounj

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Wtf is going on up there?
Business as usual in a one party state.

The governor's latest claim is that her team waited until yesterday to sign the preamble because they needed time to review the law. Funny, she didn't need any time to sign it back in July.

All the media will report is that she is going after "ghost" guns and issuing new Red Flag Law guidelines.
Which will let police as well as health care and school officials alert the courts if they believe someone with access to guns poses a danger and should have their firearms taken away, at least temporarily.
That means if your kid goes to school and brags about his dad's collection, you're screwed.

District attorneys would be able to prosecute people who shoot at or near homes, which also seeks to ensure people subject to restraining orders no longer have access to guns.
It also requires those applying for a license to carry firearms to demonstrate a basic understanding of safety principles and provides local licensing authorities with relevant mental health information.
 
Business as usual in a one party state.

The governor's latest claim is that her team waited until yesterday to sign the preamble because they needed time to review the law. Funny, she didn't need any time to sign it back in July.

All the media will report is that she is going after "ghost" guns and issuing new Red Flag Law guidelines.
Which will let police as well as health care and school officials alert the courts if they believe someone with access to guns poses a danger and should have their firearms taken away, at least temporarily.
That means if your kid goes to school and brags about his dad's collection, you're screwed.

District attorneys would be able to prosecute people who shoot at or near homes, which also seeks to ensure people subject to restraining orders no longer have access to guns.
It also requires those applying for a license to carry firearms to demonstrate a basic understanding of safety principles and provides local licensing authorities with relevant mental health information.
Move to America, much nicer here.
 

Babagounj

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Johney

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Harris has really screwed up this time.
Claiming bodily injury to anyone inside her house could be seen as premeditated murder.
I can say that all day long without prosecution and do it. Castle Doctrine. As much as I hate her I highly doubt she'd be prosecuted.
 

Babagounj

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I can say that all day long without prosecution and do it. Castle Doctrine. As much as I hate her I highly doubt she'd be prosecuted.
Seeing how Harris only has two residences, CA & Washington, DC'
Each location has different interpretations on the Castle Doctrine.
California courts have found that a person has a right in self-defense to use the force necessary to repel an assault when they are justified in believing that an assailant intends to commit a felony on them. The person is not required to retreat but may stand their ground. They have a right in self-defense to repel the assault, even to the point of killing the assailant.
District of Columbia Court of Appeals noted that this jurisdiction has sought to reach a middle ground between the two extremes of the right to stand and kill and the duty to “retreat to the wall” before killing. It approved a jury instruction as correctly stating the law of Washington, D.C. when it did not impose a duty to retreat but allowed a failure to retreat, together with all the other circumstances, to be considered by the jury in determining if there was a case of true self-defense.
 

Babagounj

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In my state the rules are applied differently.

Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court approved a jury instruction explaining that the right to use deadly force in self-defense is not available until a person has made use of all reasonable and proper means in the circumstances to avoid combat. This applies even if someone is assaulted or threatened in their home by a lawful visitor. (Massachusetts General Laws Chapter 278 Section 8a provides that an occupant of a dwelling has no duty to retreat from a person who is unlawfully in the dwelling before using force, including deadly force, when it is justified under this law.)
 

Johney

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In my state the rules are applied differently.

Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court approved a jury instruction explaining that the right to use deadly force in self-defense is not available until a person has made use of all reasonable and proper means in the circumstances to avoid combat. This applies even if someone is assaulted or threatened in their home by a lawful visitor. (Massachusetts General Laws Chapter 278 Section 8a provides that an occupant of a dwelling has no duty to retreat from a person who is unlawfully in the dwelling before using force, including deadly force, when it is justified under this law.)
What is nice about Florida stand your ground law is you can not be found liable in civil court from said scumbags family who tries to sue for wrongful death.
 

Babagounj

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North County Now noted five other gun controls were signed by Hochul, which do everything from banning Glock switches to requiring “firearms licensing officers, like those who issue concealed carry licenses, to provide information regarding state resources related to safe storage of firearms, child access prevention and firearm violence prevention.”

Glock switches are already illegal in the United States, per the ATF, but Hochul apparently found it necessary to make them illegal again.
 
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