I drink your milkshake! a metaphor for capitalism

[1989]

Jjj

 

[BrownArmy]

Get a room, you’re making the guests uncomfortable

 

[1989]

based on wages and productivity gaps. i dont think i heard it anywhere its just my guess. and its in average.

what do you think it is and why?

I have no idea. How do you calculate the 10, or so weeks of pay that I don’t work? Are you calculating all benefits, or strictly payroll?

Let’s calculate all benefits @ 45 hours a week (with no overtime calculated) for 52 weeks. And all driver made $25 an hour. Of course there will be differences around the country.

2340 hours * $50 = 117,000

117,000 * 100,000 drivers?= $11.7 bil.

Ups does not make 11.7 bil a year on only drivers.

So if ups makes 5 bil. A year and has 454k employees. They make $11,013 off every employee.

 

[Eat Sleep Fish]

i worked for UPS; they treated me badly and the pay was slightly above average on an hourly basis.

IS THIS JOHNKYBLUE????

 

[vantexan]

slave masters and lords provided jobs

And?

 

[rickyb]

And?

im just making sure you know jobs is not unique to capitalism

 

[vantexan]

im just making sure you know jobs is not unique to capitalism

But having a job in a capitalist system isn't the equivalent of being a slave.

 

[rickyb]

But having a job in a capitalist system isn't the equivalent of being a slave.

some people call it wage slavery, so theres some difference.

 

[vantexan]

some people call it wage slavery, so theres some difference.

And what communist system provides much better wages?

 

[1989]

some people call it wage slavery, so theres some difference.

How much is ups profiting on me?

 

[rickyb]

I have no idea. How do you calculate the 10, or so weeks of pay that I don’t work? Are you calculating all benefits, or strictly payroll?

Let’s calculate all benefits @ 45 hours a week (with no overtime calculated) for 52 weeks. And all driver made $25 an hour. Of course there will be differences around the country.

2340 hours * $50 = 117,000

117,000 * 100,000 drivers?= $11.7 bil.

Ups does not make 11.7 bil a year on only drivers.

So if ups makes 5 bil. A year and has 454k employees. They make $11,013 off every employee.

i have no idea if your math is right. i do know UPS is having record profits.

aside from being exploited on an hourly basis, you also lose all decision making as an employee.

so for example the seats in the trucks, the lack of radio, company not providing lights at night, uniform, length of shift, safety of trucks, etc is all determined by UPS.

 

[1989]

i have no idea if your math is right. i do know UPS is having record profits.

aside from being exploited on an hourly basis, you also lose all decision making as an employee.

so for example the seats in the trucks, the lack of radio, company not providing lights at night, uniform, length of shift, safety of trucks, etc is all determined by UPS.

WRONG

 

[rickyb]

WRONG

im right about all the things ive listed. ive done this job before, remember

even if your right about how much theyre profiting off each employee, theres something fundamentally wrong with the US economy when 3 people have more wealth than the bottom 150 million americans.

 

[rickyb]

america is the wealthiest nation on earth. there is no shortage of money, only political problems.

https://jalopnik.com/dominos-is-fixing-americas-crappy-roads-for-pizza-safet-1826736405

It’s not pretty.

To remedy this, Domino’s has been hiring work crews to repair potholes in a number of cities, including Burbank, California (five holes fixed), Bartonville, Texas (eight holes), an impressive 40 holes fixed in Milford, Delaware, and an astounding 150 potholes filled in Athens, Georgia.

It’s not entirely altruistic, of course. Domino’s tags every filled pothole with their logo and the tagline “OH YES WE DID.”

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Also, remember, this is for the sake of pizza structural integrity, not your comfort.

The city manager of Milford said of the project:

“FACING AN ALREADY HARSHER WINTER THAN USUAL FOR DELAWARE, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET ADDITIONAL MONEY TO STRETCH OUR CITY’S LIMITED RESOURCES.”

 

[Babagounj]

And now for something completely different

License Plate Flipper

 

[1989]

i have no idea if your math is right. i do know UPS is having record profits.

aside from being exploited on an hourly basis, you also lose all decision making as an employee.

so for example the seats in the trucks, the lack of radio, company not providing lights at night, uniform, length of shift, safety of trucks, etc is all determined by UPS.

It’s a travesty. I have no say in my own car. The seats, radio, safety, fuel economy, etc. it was all there before I bought it. Someone else made all those decisions. Same with my house, boats, even the cleats on the dock.

I’m glad to have these problems. Because I don’t have the time to micromanage any of this stuff. I’ll just replace things as needed, otherwise it could take over a decade to get everything right.

 

[rickyb]

It’s a travesty. I have no say in my own car. The seats, radio, safety, fuel economy, etc. it was all there before I bought it. Someone else made all those decisions. Same with my house, boats, even the cleats on the dock.

I’m glad to have these problems. Because I don’t have the time to micromanage any of this stuff. I’ll just replace things as needed, otherwise it could take over a decade to get everything right.

yea you do. you bought your own car, boat. it didnt take a decade to decide.

UPS buys its trucks without your input.

in ralph nader radio hour "myth of litigious society" they talk about the decline of juries in america. the founding fathers in the bill of rights made "jury" the most popular word after "A" and "the". juries are decentralized and largely uncorruptable.

but with capitalism we have centralization of power and corruption

 

[rickyb]

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[It will be fine]

yea you do. you bought your own car, boat. it didnt take a decade to decide.

UPS buys its trucks without your input.

in ralph nader radio hour "myth of litigious society" they talk about the decline of juries in america. the founding fathers in the bill of rights made "jury" the most popular word after "A" and "the". juries are decentralized and largely uncorruptable.

but with capitalism we have centralization of power and corruption

That’s an interesting point in light of the recent ruling allowing forced arbitration in employment contracts.

 

[1989]

yea you do. you bought your own car, boat. it didnt take a decade to decide.

UPS buys its trucks without your input.

in ralph nader radio hour "myth of litigious society" they talk about the decline of juries in america. the founding fathers in the bill of rights made "jury" the most popular word after "A" and "the". juries are decentralized and largely uncorruptable.

but with capitalism we have centralization of power and corruption

No, I did not choose the items on board. Engines, upholstery, etc.