I Voted No

Ou812fu

Polishing toilet bowls since 1966.
Driving a truck is a job, being a teacher is a career, if you are a good teacher. If it's just a job, I'm glad my grand kids don't have that teacher.

I'm speaking from a from viewpoint of a family of educators. All teachers are not educators. Perhaps you experience is biased on teachers who aren't dedicated to the profession.

I understand. I was an educator, who became a truck driver for the pay, because I had a family. It was before you wer born, so I don't expect you to respond with anything but insult. Go with what you know, amirite?

Truck driving is never a career, no matter what the billboards say. Teaching is, if you are a dedicated educator.
Are you trying to create your own definition for words??

The word career is often used to refer to a profession, occupation, trade or vocation. A career could define what you do for a living and range from those that require extensive training and education to those you can perform
 

Lineandinitial

Legio patria nostra
I'd still love to know what's the end goal of the "no campaign"? A strike? a company lockout? I can't imagine Big Carol playing around if the TA gets shot down.
I hear a lot of grumbling around management about “ungrateful”, “we should lock them out”, etc. but it’s all emotional BS.
Some think the Company will stand firm and remove items if it gets voted down.
Most of us are pretty certain it’ll pass. I’m in the Airline and everyone is happy!
 
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Bubblehead

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I'd still love to know what's the end goal of the "no campaign"? A strike? a company lockout? I can't imagine Big Carol playing around if the TA gets shot down.
"Vote No" is a culture that was cultivated over multiple concessionary contract cycles among UPS employees.

It's hard to blame them, but I sincerely hope there are enough free thinkers to realize we have beat back much of what was lost and have begun a new era....

....and that we can't do much better than what's being voted on for this contract.

Let's ratify this contract and set our sights on new goals in five years.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
"Vote No" is a culture that was cultivated over multiple concessionary contract cycles among UPS employees.

It's hard to blame them, but I sincerely hope there are enough free thinkers to realize we have beat back much of what was lost and have begun a new era....

....and that we can't do much better than what's being voted on for this contract.

Let's ratify this contract and set our sights on new goals in five years.

There’s dozens of things these vote no people want to change, there’s no one or two issues to rally around.

22.4….gone
Forced sixth day….gone
Inward facing camera/sensor…gone
Air conditioning…done

Those are some pretty heavy hitters.
 

Brownwind

Well-Known Member
I hear a lot of grumbling around management about “ungrateful”, “we should lock them out”, etc. but it’s all emotional BS.
Some think the Company will stand firm and remove items if it gets voted down.
Most of us are pretty certain it’ll pass. I’m in the Airline and everyone is happy!
Appreciate your input. Most here get vocal but keep it in the center and don’t want to shake the fence too much. I voted yes and I heard the guy’s on my area of the belt did also.
 

Thebrownblob

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Outside of Peak Season, who has been forced to work 6 days consistently?

I know of no-one here.
I’m assuming he was talking about the part time and inside employees? Forced six days has never been an issue here people have to sign up for and volunteer and they usually have plenty. I guess it’s not that way everywhere. I still wonder how any panel coulld uphold a termination for someone who’s just got a part-time job being forced on his day off what if he has another job?
 

PT Car Washer

Well-Known Member
There’s dozens of things these vote no people want to change, there’s no one or two issues to rally around.

22.4….gone
Forced sixth day….gone
Inward facing camera/sensor…gone
Air conditioning…done

Those are some pretty heavy hitters.
Not everyone is a delivery driver. The majority of future PT will be falling even farther behind in wages.
 
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