Another idea.......though it's not all mine I saw it posted elsewhere in a thread dealing with another subject but anyway. Make 8 hour days across the board instead of loading up some of these routes 10-12 hours. This would not only bring a kind of much-needed punishment down upon the clock milkers who make management want to pi-s all over us hourlies as a whole, but it would help us lower seniority guys like myself, who might get up and arms and whine every now and then after a tough day but ultimately WANT and NEED to work. One of many things I don't understand about this company, the distribution of work. Wouldn't it cost the same to work every driver who showed up on time and ready that day, and create shorter days for the older ones who either are slugs or just very tired and could maybe even deal with a slightly less than 8 hour day? I think a huge problem is fellow teamsters taking the p-ssing and moaning too far. If everyone could just show up and work an 8 hour day, give or take a a bit of time on some routes, we would all fare better. Much better service to customers as well, less stress on management about numbers... What would be so bad about putting more drivers on road, if they all hit 9 hours at the very most?? Would it really cost that much more friggin money??