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Guitarman01

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Fed a narrative? Harder work than I've done or ever would do? Go :censored2: yourself, I have more tools than you have sense. How close to the border do you live? The reality is that the flooding of illegals is a strain on government finance and the healthcare system, regardless of how many of them work hard, stay with family, or whatever. I've met more illegals than you've seen on tv you :censored2:ing ass-hat. You clearly know :censored2: about :censored2:. When you get your "real life" facts from your television, you're the one being fed a narrative.
Lol apparently I touched a nerve. If you're just a UPS guy, yes they probably work harder longer hours then you and that's saying something. I worked at UPS for almost a decade myself. But if you want to be the hardest worker and pretend I get my information from TV. Sure.
 
Lol apparently I touched a nerve. If you're just a UPS guy, yes they probably work harder longer hours then you and that's saying something. I worked at UPS for almost a decade myself. But if you want to be the hardest worker and pretend I get my information from TV. Sure.
You want to believe UPS is the hardest work I've ever done. Sure. Keep watching CNN kid.
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
The Democrats didn’t care about Hispanics. They thought if they allowed them in and eventually they became citizens they would vote Republican and that’s not working out. Democrats just like Rich Republicans would love to keep these people as under class citizens off the books mistreated as long as they get a new roof for cheap. Under class and. Dead brown people is great for the economy!!
Because they don’t actually know many working Hispanics other than their landscapers. And even those workers have better morals and values than today’s democrats, because they usually came here legally and are busting their balls trying to make a better life for their children. They resent the illegals more than us.
 

MAKAVELI

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Ooops, @MAKAVELI …..

Which category are YOU in?
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Guitarman01

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Because they don’t actually know many working Hispanics other than their landscapers. And even those workers have better morals and values than today’s democrats because they usually came here legally and are busting their balls trying to make a better life for their children. They resent the illegals more than us.
Lol morals and values. You know who you elected right? Seriously. I can't. Quick post me a picture of someone laughing hysterically.
 

Mutineer

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It's a proven fact that the undocumented add far more to the US economy than any negative impact. In CA we feed the nation and export all over the world. How you believe that removing that workforce is going to somehow improve the economy and lives of citizens is disingenuous at best.

In my occupation, some of my customers are management critters in very large Ag companies. I've engaged in small-talk with quite a few.

Through lobbying interests, and through companies who specialize in providing labor it is assured that Ag companies get the legal, documented visa workers they need.

I don't pretend to believe that removing the illegal workforce wouldn't result in negative consequences for some business interests somewhere.

But then, I also believe that those who use undocumented labor should be more interested in going about doing things the legal way in the first place.







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MAKAVELI

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In my occupation, some of my customers are management critters in very large Ag companies. I've engaged in small-talk with quite a few.

Through lobbying interests, and through companies who specialize in providing labor it is assured that Ag companies get the legal, documented visa workers they need.

I don't pretend to believe that removing the illegal workforce wouldn't result in negative consequences for some business interests somewhere.

But then, I also believe that those who use undocumented labor should be more interested in going about doing things the legal way in the first place.







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Ag is big business in California and makes a ton of profit from not only the cost of labor but the productivity. These produce companies will only pass the increased costs of production to the consumer to keep their profits. Don't fool yourself, they know the outcome of removing the undocumented workforce.
 

Mutineer

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Companies like FedEx also aren't hiring undocumented workers. Higher wages also lead to higher prices for consumers. Everyone likes the thought of made in America they just don't want to pay for it.
Based on Trump's plan on tariffs, if anyone has been eyeing that black Friday deal on a Hisense or TCL TV you better grab it this year.

I will keep using Mexicans as an example because it's what I'm most familiar with.
They aren't stealing any glamorous jobs.
Are you kidding me? If we seriously got rid of all the undocumented workers entire sectors in the food industry would struggle, from pig and egg farms to slaughterhouses for beef.
So with these jobs they aren't exactly taking desirable homes off the market either. A lot don't even stay year round.

My point was Hispanics didn't vote for Trump because of any immigration policy, they voted on the economy period. Like a lot of people did.
If Trump doesn't come through on the economy, he is going to start to fall out of favor with a lot of voters pretty fast.

Legal, illegal, undocumented. Those words are of little consequence to me.

My issue in the points I am attempting to convey is with 'excessive' immigration.
 
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