Settle it in the parking lot
UPS pays its part timers the same if not less than what Amazon pays them. Amazon even gives them a sign on bonus. In fact, in 177 we are often getting paid more by UPS than what our own leadership negotiated for. Think about that. Scamazon is paying their employees more than what our union negotiated for.
UPS'ers usually learn to not be concerned with other UPS'ers.
Starting rate for loaders was $8.50 for what, 20 years? It didn't go up because the union negotiated for it, it went up bc UPS could no longer get bodies in the door at that rate.
Tell them to go work for Amazon then and see how quickly they realize how much more they get from the union than just pay.
Applied for Amazon back when I was PT with UPS, worst job I've ever worked, it is nothing like UPS package Handler. They put all the fresh meat at stowing, they walk around with containers packed with small items and put them at your designated station, you take the items from the bin, scan them and place them in a designated pouch of a cubbie. Seems easy until you realize it's Amazon and every cubbie the robots bring to you is already jam packed with.
And good luck sneaking away to go to the bathroom, you'll get written up. You 2 scans per hour behind the average? Written up. You get watched 24/7, everything you do is tracked and no protection from management whatsoever.
They want you stowing 250 items an hour....
A RPCD buddy of mine’s wife got on as a amazon driver last peak and has kept the job, boy is it a sh** show operation; the stories she tells us are ridiculous. Drive all the way to the station, wait an hour, get sent home with show up pay.
20 minutes later get the call that your show up pay will not happen and you need to come do a 4 hour block to get paid for the day
3 day schedule on week and the next they ask her for 7 WORK DAYS
But there’s so much turnover that even though she stands up to them they literally can’t fire her.
Makes me feel lucky to be a teamster, even though no camp seems to be without it’s own corruption these days
"I'm not satisfied with the representation the union is giving me"
No I'm pointing out you think working for Amazon is better than what the union gets us.
When I worked at Amazon I was never disciplined once, I came to work did my job to the best of my ability and went home. I was routinely given bonuses for my work ethic at Amazon. I left because I disliked the hours.
I never said that. @TeltBender said something like that a few posts up. What I said is that I don't pay dues every month to be told "If you don't like it, there's the door." I could get that for free.
No you pay dues to have a voice through the grievance system and vote on what you do or do not like.
When my company is paying me more than what my union “negotiated hard for”, that’s when I know my union isn’t doing enough for me. The union doesn’t care for part timers.
They care for the union dues
My union hall couldn't even give me my steward's phone number. I'd have to track him down in the building to talk about a grievance. But why bother? Filing one sounds like a good way to put a target on your back.
You mean like the last contract, where most of the votes cast were against it, but it got approved anyways on a technicality?
In my building they will find a way to fire people who file supes working grievances.
This is exactly correct. In a day with 150 stops, are you really confident that you won't cheat a single stop sign or miss the handrail once? Are you a robot? If your management team really wants to railroad you, they can send Mr. Clipboard to tail you and look for mistakes. There's a reason there's 340 Delivery Methods and it's not bc this job is complicated. There's two steps. PUT THE BOX IN THE TRUCK. TAKE THE BOX OUT OF THE TRUCK.
I agree with you about the opportunity to become full time. And you also have to factor in the value of the insurance (which took me a year of loading to get, now it's 90 days.) But inflation is also a thing. Paying $8.50 for over two decades was unacceptable. UPS didn't raise the starting rate bc the union bargained for it. They raised the rate bc they were losing in the labor market to Sheetz and McDonalds. I started at $8.50 and moved up to $10 when the new contract kicked in. A couple years later my building raised the starting rate to $14. My pay went up to match this (it was $12 or $13 by then). I had 4 years experience and I was making as much as a guy off the street.
It isn't always what you think it is. Give him the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps you think you see him intentionally mishandling the packages but it may not be exactly what you think it is. There's so many instances I could go on about but you don't know everything. I would show compassion and approach the guy about it. It's great to see someone care about the customers the way you do, I know not everyone feels that way. Even still, try to see that it isn't always what the eyes can see.
