Is it worth it?

[UnionStrong]

The main reason would be for pay, benefits and setting myself up for the future. I figured Noone here would pull any punches maybe a little bs but so far I appreciate the input.

If you can handle the physical aspect and the stress, go for it.

 

[satellitedriver]

You forgot one key item
You are a pos scab

You forget that UPS paid my salary, paid my insurance premiums and put $245 dollars a week into the Central States pension fund to pay me my pension.
The teamsters have never put one red cent into my pay, insurance premiums, or pension.
Maybe you forgot that in the 1997 strike the teamsters strike fund was empty and could not fund the $50 a week strike pay to the workers that walked off the job.
So, they had to borrow 5 million dollars from another union to meet the first weeks strike pay.
My strike check of $50 had $40 dollar union dues taken out of it.
Years later they told other union to kiss off.
I could go on, but the facts don't matter to the true believers that the teamster union is the only reason workers succeed in life.
In 2020 only 10.8%, in all categories of American workers, belong to a union.
So explain to me how 89.2% of all Americans keep this nation running without the "protection" of a union.
People complain about the super rich 1%, but you never hear a word about the union rich "protected" 10% not paying their fair share.
I may be a POS, but I had no qualms to tell the teamsters to kiss off.

 

[UnionStrong]

You forget that UPS paid my salary, paid my insurance premiums and put $245 dollars a week into the Central States pension fund to pay me my pension.
The teamsters have never put one red cent into my pay, insurance premiums, or pension.
Maybe you forgot that in the 1997 strike the teamsters strike fund was empty and could not fund the $50 a week strike pay to the workers that walked off the job.
So, they had to borrow 5 million dollars from another union to meet the first weeks strike pay.
My strike check of $50 had $40 dollar union dues taken out of it.
Years later they told other union to kiss off.
I could go on, but the facts don't matter to the true believers that the teamster union is the only reason workers succeed in life.
In 2020 only 10.8%, in all categories of American workers, belong to a union.
So explain to me how 89.2% of all Americans keep this nation running without the "protection" of a union.
People complain about the super rich 1%, but you never hear a word about the union rich "protected" 10% not paying their fair share.
I may be a POS, but I had no qualms to tell the teamsters to kiss off.

May be? You are a POS.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

May be? You are a POS.

And how many people actually have a pension?

 

[quad decade guy]

You forget that UPS paid my salary, paid my insurance premiums and put $245 dollars a week into the Central States pension fund to pay me my pension.
The teamsters have never put one red cent into my pay, insurance premiums, or pension.
Maybe you forgot that in the 1997 strike the teamsters strike fund was empty and could not fund the $50 a week strike pay to the workers that walked off the job.
So, they had to borrow 5 million dollars from another union to meet the first weeks strike pay.
My strike check of $50 had $40 dollar union dues taken out of it.
Years later they told other union to kiss off.
I could go on, but the facts don't matter to the true believers that the teamster union is the only reason workers succeed in life.
In 2020 only 10.8%, in all categories of American workers, belong to a union.
So explain to me how 89.2% of all Americans keep this nation running without the "protection" of a union.
People complain about the super rich 1%, but you never hear a word about the union rich "protected" 10% not paying their fair share.
I may be a POS, but I had no qualms to tell the teamsters to kiss off.

Serious question....

Do you really think you would have EVER gotten paid what you did without the Union?

Think real hard about that. As in....you walk into HR and negotiate a salary?

Truth is.....our bountiful and comfortable lifestyle was negotiated by the Union.

I don't know you.....but I believe you are being intellectualy dishonest in your dismissal of our situation of UPS/Union.

Without the Union.....you would never have reaped the pay and benefits at UPS. Fact.

 

[UnionStrong]

And how many people actually have a pension?

Not many.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Not many.

That's the thing in the past and in 2023 management will no longer have a pension

 

[UnionStrong]

That's the thing in the past and in 2023 management will no longer have a pension

Good. They made their money by trying to break our backs.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Good. They made their money by trying to break our backs.

I don't think 2023 is going to be a good year.

 

[UnionStrong]

I don't think 2023 is going to be a good year.

You can thank James R Hoffa Sr. for our pension, it was basically his plan.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

You can thank James R Hoffa Sr. for our pension, it was basically his plan.

Management pension contributions and then 2023 and small package, the mechanics and the pilots contracts also all expire in 2023

 

[Red Devil]

So explain to me how 89.2% of all Americans keep this nation running without the "protection" of a union.

They keep it running, insofar as it does run, with less pay and worse benefits.

 

[UnionStrong]

Management pension contributions and then 2023 and small package, the mechanics and the pilots contracts also all expire in 2023

I think your right about 2023 being a rough year

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I think your right about 2023 being a rough year

I can hardly wait buddy

 

[UnionStrong]

They keep it running, insofar as it does run, with less pay and worse benefits.

Tell that scab!

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Tell that scab!

Just put him on ignore where he belongs

 

[burrheadd]

You forget that UPS paid my salary, paid my insurance premiums and put $245 dollars a week into the Central States pension fund to pay me my pension.
The teamsters have never put one red cent into my pay, insurance premiums, or pension.
Maybe you forgot that in the 1997 strike the teamsters strike fund was empty and could not fund the $50 a week strike pay to the workers that walked off the job.
So, they had to borrow 5 million dollars from another union to meet the first weeks strike pay.
My strike check of $50 had $40 dollar union dues taken out of it.
Years later they told other union to kiss off.
I could go on, but the facts don't matter to the true believers that the teamster union is the only reason workers succeed in life.
In 2020 only 10.8%, in all categories of American workers, belong to a union.
So explain to me how 89.2% of all Americans keep this nation running without the "protection" of a union.
People complain about the super rich 1%, but you never hear a word about the union rich "protected" 10% not paying their fair share.
I may be a POS, but I had no qualms to tell the teamsters to kiss off.

Way TLDR
I got no time for scabs

 

[satellitedriver]

And how many people actually have a pension?

Everyone of my 4 brothers and 1 sister. None of them ever belonged to a union.

 

[UnionStrong]

Everyone of my 4 brothers and 1 sister. None of them ever belonged to a union.

All scabs? Whole family? Wow!

 

[satellitedriver]

They keep it running, insofar as it does run, with less pay and worse benefits.

Thanks for making my point.
Non union workers keep this country viable and the union members votes for Democrats.